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what's happening ladies and gentlemen so

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i know tonight was a little bit

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different far as the start to the whole

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system here but we're glad you're

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hanging in there with us and i will make

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sure that i will always be going live

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for you guys the reason i wouldn't go

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live is if i'm in bed extremely

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deathly sick and even then maybe like

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babe maybe bring bring in the mic bring

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it i can do it so we're gonna roll with

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it no matter what as i mentioned there

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we're gonna get a time set up hopefully

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for ashley again to be able to bring her

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back on things happen like this in life

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that's the way it goes but we do have

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the one and only the man the myth

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himself chad smith with us and i'll be

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bringing him on here shortly however i'd

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like to give a shout out to those in our

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stream yard already in the chat as well

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as those i do see we are now we are now

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streaming to twitter uh

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twitter and twitch as well as two

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different facebook groups and pages so

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if you are watching there welcome i see

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we have one like from there so i really

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appreciate that thank you very much if

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you'd like you can hop on youtube it

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looks like youtube is the only way

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unfortunately

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that i will be able to see your comments

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directly unless someone wants to job

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onto twitch or twitter and try that out

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feel free to but i believe the only

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ability to see your comments is here in

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youtube which if you are here please hit

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the like button ring that bell so you

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are notified each and every time we go

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live you never know

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maybe maybe we're just feeling frisky

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that day maybe we go live at noon maybe

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we go live at 4am we don't really know

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what could happen here in the garage at

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any time old blue or the impala could be

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fired up it could be out about traveling

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the cosmos and you might miss out on it

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if you don't ring the bell so please do

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that

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right off the bat gold position

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excuse me right off the bat champ

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excuse me champ campbell party party

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party party right here artie first place

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tammy finnegan welcome

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zero cool what's shaken brother

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sunsaver from nhh welcome

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chad smith oh my gosh chad smith is also

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in the chat as well what a coincidence

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guys let's see who else we got here i

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want to make sure i don't miss anybody

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chris home what's happening brother by

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the way that art is looking dope i

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really like the one with the sharks of

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dave scott i really like that one

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why welcome to the chat thank you for

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being here tonight

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let's see i want to make sure i got

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everybody i don't miss any of you

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because they love each and every one of

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you alien girl one one one she says yay

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big willy

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that's right that's right i'm excited

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you're here with us tonight

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let's see who else we got grand master

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welcome and i think that might be oh

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allison hey what's shaking and wes h i

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think i'm gonna miss that one but i see

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that somebody saying hi to that there we

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go wes age all right guys

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so you guys keep popping over there i

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will keep up with it as much as possible

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as we have all mentioned to tonight uh

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captain keystone what's shakin

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we are going to be doing ghost stories

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tonight so i'd like to hit on a little

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bit of lore of that where that came from

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the terminology you know it's one of

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those things people either love or hate

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maybe you're indifferent to it but i

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find people have like a lot of strong

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feelings when it comes to ghosts and

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we're gonna be doing is if you are up

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for it we already have i know at least

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one maybe two people are gonna be

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calling in to share their stories

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if you are feeling it please come in hop

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in old blue you know what i always say

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what happens in the van

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stays in the van right except for the

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internet who will be watching as well

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doug creek customs welcome

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heck yeah

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um but yeah if anybody wants to share

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anything whether it be if you write to

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me in the chat you can try that version

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i'll do my best to read it for you or

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the easiest way would be if you hop into

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our back uh the bat or the stream yard

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with me and share the story you don't

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even have to be video you can just do

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audio

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all right what else we got going uh the

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other important thing how can we forget

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about this right here guys this is an

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important one

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manscaped

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cleared for takeoff would you guys look

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at this your balls will thank you

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and i will keep pounding the table for

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this because it is a fantastic deal if

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you use the promo code ufo garage all

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capitalized you will get not only 20 off

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on your order

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plus free shipping that's pretty sweet

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and as i keep saying treat your family

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jewels like the drills they truly are

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because we all know when you venture to

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the nether regions it's best to take

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professional help

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once again that code is manscaped or is

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ufo garage all capitalized and it the

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links will be in the show notes as well

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and if you're listening in podcast

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format slide on down there links to the

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many ways you can stay in touch with me

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uh you can email me if you'd like to be

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in the garage or you can email the boys

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over at the garage as well

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and uh if you'd like to be on their show

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so let's uh let's get that out of the

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way here

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we really appreciate that by the way i'm

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excited we'll see what happens with

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landscape hopefully it's working out for

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them hopefully they're getting some

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they're getting some sales from this and

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hopefully we can work out a long-term

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relationship

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all right ladies and gentlemen enough of

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the enough of my voice in here let's get

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a professional on here uh that's right

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the great ball toner as y mentions here

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some uh here in the chat know to follow

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the group

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ben is a fan of this on his neck

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which i feel leads us to the only

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conclusion and anyone who's watched men

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in black he might be a bulginian

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i don't wanna i don't wanna start too

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many rumors

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but the man's putting ball toner on his

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neck we're not saying you shouldn't do

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he might be the only one doing it so

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anyways let's go ahead and bring in chad

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smith brother what is shakin tonight

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thank you so very very much for hopping

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on here and saving my rear end tonight i

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no problem man no problem i happen to

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have a clean hoodie on so our clean

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hoodie for the ufo garage so it all

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worked out worked out perfect look at

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you you got sticker over there too i got

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stickers i got

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hoodies t-shirts

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that's right if you guys would like to

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support the show at ufo

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garagepodcast.com

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that is a great way to stay in touch

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with them and also support the show so

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thank you very much for obviously

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showing much love over there uh didn't

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you i believe can people get uh hello my

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name is chad smith and they can yup yeah

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it looks like a little uh hello my name

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is tag and then it looks like i signed

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it says chad smith and then it has an

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awesome ufo garage um

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logo on the whole back of the shirt

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looks awesome

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so make sure you gotta go over there and

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you buy 20 of them each you need 20 of

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them for each family member

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that's right christmas is coming

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uh let's see what else really quick oh

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i would like to mention one thing guys

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tuesday this coming tuesday guys the

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at 9 pm still the same time

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with the one and only david wise or as

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most know him flat earth dave um it will

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be a little bit different we're not

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gonna be using stream yard for some

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certain reasons so we'll be doing zoom

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there won't be as much interaction as

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far as me being able to interact with

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the chat and send questions in that way

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so what i'd love you guys to do is send

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me questions excuse me

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send me questions now

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anything that you think

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absolutely 100 proves the earth is is

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definitely a heliocentric or is a as a

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fear uh please send it to me because i

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won't be able to interact with you that

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evening unfortunately but i am excited

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to have that interview

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and see uh see what he says i mean i'm

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one of those guys who's an open-minded

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person if you were to come up to me and

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like yeah we're all crabs from the waist

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down i'd be like let's sit down

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how did you come to this conclusion

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let's talk about it right i just want to

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i'm a very open person that way so i'm

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excited to see

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what happens with him what he brings to

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the table

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i think it's gonna be a good time all

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around uh so anyways chad

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what's up man what do you what do you

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feel long time no talk first of all

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right hey you know what we only did

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seven hours yesterday so

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you know there's still fuel in the tank

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i i don't think people know how much we

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party in the back scenes even when we're

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not live guys there's always a party

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around i'll tell you why there's a party

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going on

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heck yeah

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um let's see really quick

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what do you know about or feel far as

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when it comes to ghosts because i'd love

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to in a minute read just a little bit of

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a background on what you think but what

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comes to chad smith's mind when he hears

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the person say

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chad

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bro i seen a i seen a ghost the other

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night what comes to mind for you first

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of all i totally believe you

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i'm not one of those people that's like

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you know i am a skeptic but i'm very

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open-minded

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so if you tell me that you saw a ghost

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and we're friends

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probably gonna believe you i'm not gonna

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be i'm not i'm definitely somebody you

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can come to with that information

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i'm not an experiencer so i haven't seen

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a ghost

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time knocking on my bathroom door

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as far as seeing one i haven't seen one

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yet

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so

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you know i'm open-minded but

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pretty skeptical

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and

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i'd love to see it go someday but

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uh

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just hasn't happened yet

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right

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i you know that's the thing is we always

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talk about because here i think most of

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us here in the chat and perhaps those

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listening right now

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would say that they feel that they have

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a belief system in in aliens or possibly

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extraterrestrial life in whatever format

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that may be

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but every once in a while you encounter

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those people who believe absolutely that

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e.t is here

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in whatever capacity and exists

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and they have an issue when it comes to

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the idea of

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an apparition or a ghost and there seems

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to be kind of a hard line in the sand

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every once in a while and i've always

301
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found that intriguing i wonder why

302
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they're these encamp encampments almost

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as it were that i belong to the bigfoot

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community or i belong to the paranormal

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community and or i am strictly into

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ufology have you have you encountered

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this much yourself

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um you mean as far as encountering

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people that are that have that opinion

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or yeah i guess that's what i'm saying

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is that you can be literally so let's

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say for your instance let's say you're

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talking to me even let's just use me i

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won't use anybody else again you're

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talking to willing like you know i think

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will he's into this ufo stuff and he's

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into a lot of that and i'd seen those

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ghosts the other night i'm gonna go tell

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him about it and all of a sudden i'm

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sitting there going bro

321
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can we come back come on bring it back

322
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to reality let's talk about you know

323
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what i mean let's talk about aliens okay

324
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let's talk about what we know is real

325
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you're like well how do you know aliens

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are real

327
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100

328
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yeah i'm actually in the camp where

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i think everything's connected i saw

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this cartoon picture i don't know if i

331
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sent it to you or not but it was like

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all the different conspiracies sitting

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around at the table playing cards

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and the table is like

335
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i think the table was earth i can't

336
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remember but it's just like you know

337
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bigfoot's sitting there there's an alien

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sitting there all propped up with his

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cards and it's all the different things

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all connected and it's like

341
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i think everything is all the same thing

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we just

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to make everything separate but i think

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something i agree um i just noticed

345
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something interesting by the way uh two

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things number one louis says ghosts are

347
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in dimensions we just can't see could

348
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very well be i did notice right here ufo

349
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garage

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says what's everyone sipping on tonight

351
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and that was me but that came through

352
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from twitch guys i'm not on twitch but i

353
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do see there are some comments coming

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through from strange as well

355
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yeah maybe it's just being sent out so

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maybe if anybody's into those other

357
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and their groups could let me know maybe

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when i typed in maybe it went out i

359
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don't know we're just looking to keep

360
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his figures so he's drinking white claws

361
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you got to keep those carbs down bro

362
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it's very important let's get that tea

363
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tonight bring that tea

364
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um so let me read this really quick and

365
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then i believe it looks like we already

366
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have at least one person backstage guys

367
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so we already got one lined up and like

368
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i said if anybody else is up for it

369
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tonight

370
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um feel free you don't have to there's

371
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this is a judgment-free zone in the big

372
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wheelie van

373
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we're out running the cosmos

374
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as you can see

375
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we're in a creepy background tonight i

376
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got a little a little bit of a creepy

377
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background set up for us and i just want

378
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to hear your story it doesn't have to

379
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always directly be a ghost story it can

380
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be just

381
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anything strange that's ever happened to

382
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you has anything as joe put up on his

383
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page either he got great responses was

384
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have you ever experienced something you

385
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just cannot explain but since we did

386
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mention ghosts i'm just going to read

387
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everyone's most reliable source right

388
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here wikipedia guys

389
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case you're always trust that 100

390
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um and i just was curious i was like

391
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well let me go check it out i just want

392
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to see

393
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what it says if i just simply type in

394
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the word ghost all right and what it

395
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says is in folklore a ghost is the soul

396
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or spirit of a dead person or animal

397
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that can appear to the living

398
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in ghost lore descriptions of ghosts

399
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vary widely from an invisible invisible

400
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presence to a translucent or barely

401
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visible wispy shapes

402
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to realistic like life forms

403
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the deliberate attempt to contact the

404
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spirit ideas of a deceased person is

405
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known as necromancy

406
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or in spiritism

407
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as a seance other terms associated with

408
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it are an apparition haunt phantom

409
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poltergeist shade spector or spectra

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spirit spook wrath demon and ghoul

411
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so every once in a while that is a

412
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curious thing now that i'm thinking

413
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about it because i've heard people i

414
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think if someone just told me about the

415
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blue they're like bro i seen a ghoul i'd

416
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be like what the french what are you

417
00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:04,320
talking about what is a ghoul

418
00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:05,519
i would have to look that one up for

419
00:14:07,670 --> 00:14:06,240
sure

420
00:14:10,629 --> 00:14:07,680
oh i would have went directly to

421
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wikipedia for google

422
00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:14,079
i'm not sure it's wikipedia guys oh yes

423
00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:17,199
by the way if anybody oh i love this one

424
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from lewis the van needs a keg installed

425
00:14:23,269 --> 00:14:21,519
oh my oh my

426
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god

427
00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:25,680
um and if anybody has a question once we

428
00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:27,519
get going rolling here please try to put

429
00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:29,920
it in caps and i will do my best to to

430
00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:32,240
answer it and if i did miss it please

431
00:14:34,629 --> 00:14:33,440
feel free to put it back up there again

432
00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:34,639
because sometimes i do miss it i get

433
00:14:37,509 --> 00:14:36,000
distracted

434
00:14:39,430 --> 00:14:37,519
all right guys let's dig into this it

435
00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:39,440
looks like we have a for our first guest

436
00:14:42,550 --> 00:14:40,639
back

437
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:42,560
stage right now uh zach it looks like

438
00:14:44,949 --> 00:14:44,000
the name is so let me let me get this

439
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:44,959
off here and then we're going to go

440
00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:47,680
ahead and bring on zach as well

441
00:14:50,629 --> 00:14:49,519
and let's see here i read one thing here

442
00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:50,639
real quick that was kind of intriguing

443
00:14:53,590 --> 00:14:52,240
to me uh the native americans so from

444
00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:53,600
grand master right here

445
00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:55,680
the native americans said that we're all

446
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from the pleiades or wait

447
00:15:07,590 --> 00:15:05,269
like the plane use like the uh star

448
00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,600
constellation

449
00:15:10,829 --> 00:15:09,120
we should go to wikipedia for that right

450
00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:10,839
now

451
00:15:15,750 --> 00:15:14,000
check that and i'm going to bring in our

452
00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:15,760
guest backstage

453
00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:18,000
on that heck yeah i'm going to get some

454
00:15:21,829 --> 00:15:20,079
answers about that

455
00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:21,839
already

456
00:15:24,829 --> 00:15:23,199
hey what's up

457
00:15:27,910 --> 00:15:24,839
zach what's happening

458
00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:27,920
brother you calling in for us oh yeah

459
00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:29,680
anytime we're going tonight it's going

460
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,440
pretty good

461
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:33,519
very where are we going for you

462
00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:35,360
oh we're getting excited man we're

463
00:15:39,350 --> 00:15:37,120
coming closer and closer to the to the

464
00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:39,360
big night right we're what one one week

465
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,600
out about roughly a week or eight days

466
00:15:44,550 --> 00:15:43,440
we're eight days away from halloween

467
00:15:46,710 --> 00:15:44,560
so

468
00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,720
we're we're moving right along

469
00:15:50,069 --> 00:15:48,800
i'm excited to uh

470
00:15:51,509 --> 00:15:50,079
i'm gonna be doing a little like mini

471
00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:51,519
podcast with just my kids and stuff have

472
00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:52,560
to get done trick-or-treating for

473
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halloween so i'm excited to see what

474
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:55,199
they're going to talk about what their

475
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with their little curious minds come up

476
00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:58,639
with it'll be interesting

477
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:00,880
but uh yeah so you mentioned

478
00:16:05,430 --> 00:16:03,040
uh that you have had or your family's

479
00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:05,440
had some experiences in relation to

480
00:16:09,030 --> 00:16:07,440
apparitions or ghosts so so roughly give

481
00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:09,040
or take how did this come about or what

482
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:11,120
took place i guess

483
00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:12,399
so

484
00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:13,120
you

485
00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:14,320
well

486
00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:24,230
and uh but my mom and my cousin have had

487
00:16:27,749 --> 00:16:26,240
more than i have so like they have

488
00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:27,759
better stories than i do so that's why i

489
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,320
have them here tonight to explain

490
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:32,560
what they have experienced

491
00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:34,720
okay very nice well i've had a few

492
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:37,440
experiences myself before

493
00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,240
but nothing like my mom so now none of

494
00:16:44,949 --> 00:16:42,399
us were really believers until my

495
00:16:47,990 --> 00:16:44,959
grandmother passed away and she said

496
00:16:50,069 --> 00:16:48,000
that she would definitely haul

497
00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:50,079
the way she put it which i won't say

498
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:52,320
what the words that she said but when

499
00:16:56,710 --> 00:16:54,639
she put it work i'm gonna

500
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,720
have all of you

501
00:16:59,590 --> 00:16:58,320
sobs

502
00:17:02,829 --> 00:16:59,600
yeah

503
00:17:05,590 --> 00:17:02,839
and uh and she certainly did

504
00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,600
wow interesting

505
00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:07,679
well first of all welcome to the show uh

506
00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:09,280
thank you for for coming out today i did

507
00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:11,280
not get your name which what's your name

508
00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:12,240
cheryl

509
00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:15,120
the time on your evening to come on here

510
00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:16,640
and share with us i really appreciate

511
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:18,959
that no problem

512
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:20,799
um is it okay if i ask a couple

513
00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:23,360
questions in relation to this this story

514
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:24,240
sure

515
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,520
okay so now prior to this she you guys

516
00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:29,360
said you were not believers and then she

517
00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:30,720
she must have been joking throughout

518
00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:32,160
life is it always a joke of hers to say

519
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,600
hey if i ever passed away i'm gonna i'm

520
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:35,280
gonna make sure i hang around and screw

521
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:36,880
with you guys

522
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,600
yeah pretty much

523
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,960
and she did

524
00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:42,400
very nice

525
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:43,280
um

526
00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:45,520
do you mind if it's okay to ask after

527
00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:47,440
her passing was it was it something that

528
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:49,120
happened very quickly or how did that

529
00:17:53,270 --> 00:17:50,960
story come about i guess

530
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:53,280
it it pretty much happened fairly

531
00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:55,520
quickly um

532
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:57,760
so my aunt came up from texas and came

533
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:00,480
and stayed with us with her sister

534
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:04,160
at my house zach's grandmother's

535
00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:06,400
and um

536
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:08,160
so zach's grandmother came and stayed at

537
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:09,440
our house and then

538
00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:12,080
my aunt came and stayed too

539
00:18:15,909 --> 00:18:13,200
and uh

540
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,919
yep pretty much everybody got

541
00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:18,320
my my son came up

542
00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:21,200
and said uh hey mom what's it mean when

543
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,480
there's

544
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:24,240
it's like really cold in my room and i

545
00:18:27,590 --> 00:18:25,919
can see my breath

546
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:27,600
he's like never mind i already know the

547
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:30,000
answer to that

548
00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:33,280
and i'm like oh boy and then pretty much

549
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:34,480
that night

550
00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:35,200
my

551
00:18:40,789 --> 00:18:39,840
aunt felt in another separate room and

552
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,799
then

553
00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:43,200
at one point my husband and i were in

554
00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,960
our bed and i said hey

555
00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:46,880
why is the window open he's like i

556
00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:48,480
didn't open the window i'm like uh the

557
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,919
window's open

558
00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:51,679
he's like no it isn't and this is in

559
00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:54,840
march like really cold weather

560
00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,720
and

561
00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:59,039
it was really cold in the room

562
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,120
so and i could see my breath and i said

563
00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:03,120
yep grandma said she was gonna haul

564
00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:06,640
every one of us and she did

565
00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:11,360
all in the same night in the same house

566
00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:12,160
wow

567
00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,480
did she pass away and if i hope it's

568
00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:16,160
okay did she pass away in the home or

569
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:18,080
was it was it separate from there

570
00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:20,480
nope it was uh she had a stroke and then

571
00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:22,480
she was in a nursing home and then she

572
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:24,559
had uh and then

573
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:29,990
but she she she pretty much went through

574
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:32,000
the whole family yeah remember i'm gonna

575
00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,280
lie remember that one night you had the

576
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,360
babysitter over for us

577
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,360
and the door started slamming nope that

578
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,520
was after past was that after pat

579
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,280
that's another story for later on i just

580
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:43,919
have a lot of stories over there huh

581
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:45,679
and you know what honestly i never

582
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:47,520
believed in it and i i'm not even

583
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:49,600
kidding with you these are these are

584
00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:52,400
true stories like i'm not even joking oh

585
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:53,679
we believe you

586
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:57,039
because i'm you're in a safe spot here

587
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,799
what's that i said you're in a safe

588
00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:00,400
place here everyone here believes in

589
00:20:03,270 --> 00:20:01,280
ghosts

590
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:03,280
i didn't believe in it believe me until

591
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:11,029
yep and no that was actually the grandma

592
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:12,960
yeah that that was the grandma my

593
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,280
sister-in-law came to babysit zach and

594
00:20:19,669 --> 00:20:16,799
destiny

595
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:19,679
and what ended up happening was the door

596
00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:23,120
slammed in the downstairs

597
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,159
and i'm like um there's no windows open

598
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:28,480
down there there's this was in the

599
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:30,799
basement with their bedrooms and no way

600
00:20:34,789 --> 00:20:32,799
that could have happened

601
00:20:37,029 --> 00:20:34,799
like there's no wind there's no windows

602
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:37,039
open there's no anything

603
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,760
and yeah the the when the doors were

604
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,360
slamming and she never came back the

605
00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:43,840
babysitter

606
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:45,360
since the wall never came back to

607
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:48,400
babysit that was the end of that huh

608
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,240
you could handle it he was like yeah no

609
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,640
i'm done

610
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,880
that is true i'm so sorry for your loss

611
00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:56,640
of your grandmother i appreciate it

612
00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:58,720
thanks alison

613
00:21:01,830 --> 00:21:00,400
thank you very much alison

614
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:01,840
uh and that was kind of my other

615
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:04,000
question was it was it a one-time kind

616
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:05,200
of thing but yeah there's lots of

617
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,240
stories for tonight right now

618
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,799
and my cousin billy has a few herself

619
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:12,640
and i could add to that myself because

620
00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,120
my ex-husband passed away but we'll save

621
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,360
that for later

622
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,520
for sure yeah i guess let's do this then

623
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:21,280
let's break it down uh if you guys are

624
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:24,640
okay in a chronological order so

625
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:26,400
um the the first passing was your

626
00:21:32,260 --> 00:21:28,320
grandmother correct and

627
00:21:32,270 --> 00:21:35,990
[Music]

628
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:37,590
zach you guys are breaking up a little

629
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:38,720
bit i don't know if you have something

630
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,830
yeah you

631
00:21:47,830 --> 00:21:45,600
your videos breaking up like your video

632
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:47,840
is frozen though so i don't know if

633
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:53,430
there you go i can i can hear you now

634
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:56,960
though what i was asking is was it just

635
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,799
that evening that you had interact where

636
00:22:01,350 --> 00:22:00,159
she kind of went through everybody met

637
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,360
her by the evening did you guys have

638
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:03,440
anything after that that that particular

639
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:04,960
night

640
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,200
um yes actually

641
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:09,360
i came home one day

642
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:13,200
after going to the store and the door

643
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:16,240
was wide open and i double checked

644
00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:17,679
triple checked

645
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:20,400
because i'm ocd that way

646
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,760
and the door was literally open after i

647
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,360
had checked it make sure it was locked

648
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,600
when i walked out of it

649
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,120
and uh i

650
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:31,840
so finally i just said hey grandma

651
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,240
look there it's really expensive to heat

652
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:36,640
the house so you need to stop leaving my

653
00:22:44,789 --> 00:22:42,230
even though it's kind of funny

654
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:44,799
but that's what i said to her and you

655
00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:46,880
know she just kept like

656
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,120
messing with me really bad

657
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,679
but we were really close too but she

658
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:53,679
just kept messing with me and

659
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:56,559
finally i called the guy that

660
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:59,120
preacher that did her funeral and i'm

661
00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:00,159
like hey

662
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,679
i don't know what to do here but she

663
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,280
keeps messing with me and he's like well

664
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:05,440
she's kind of in between so you need to

665
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,200
go through and pray around the house and

666
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:09,440
after i did that it kind of it kind of

667
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,590
but

668
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:15,440
you know i had to go through every each

669
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:17,919
and every room to like pray around all i

670
00:23:21,669 --> 00:23:20,320
gotta say all i gotta say is just some

671
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,679
goodies coming to your guys's way

672
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:23,760
tonight with the stories

673
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:26,240
no it's not a story it's a true no it's

674
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,919
true stories but there's some goodies

675
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:29,919
coming your guys's way

676
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:31,520
some good news because that doesn't end

677
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:34,320
there with my grandmother she just

678
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:38,400
literally made it the start of the story

679
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,279
like the start of oh my god now i maybe

680
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:43,120
i should believe in this stuff because i

681
00:23:46,310 --> 00:23:44,480
really didn't

682
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:46,320
is it okay to ask about how long ago

683
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:48,840
that was timeline wise

684
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,720
um

685
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,320
when did my grandmother passed away we

686
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:54,400
were still living with your dad yeah i

687
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:59,350
2000

688
00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:00,559
was it

689
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,600
it was way before it was 2007 right it

690
00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:06,080
was before no it was before pat before

691
00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,669
so that's a lot that's a long time ago

692
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:14,159
i'm gonna say at least

693
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:15,279
i'm gonna say

694
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:16,480
like

695
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,080
maybe 20

696
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:20,240
years ago because my mom's been done for

697
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:23,039
a little while and so is my ex husband

698
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,400
oh yeah i have some stories from them

699
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:25,919
about what happened to me with grandma

700
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,549
so it was bad not so good no and

701
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,960
but i told you she always has my back

702
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:39,360
even when she is not here

703
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,669
well that's what i was going to ask you

704
00:24:47,110 --> 00:24:45,360
is after this incident happened and you

705
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,120
guys kind of went through i guess and

706
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:48,960
and you know whatever term you want to

707
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,960
use climbed the house or helped her pass

708
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,320
the next side

709
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:54,240
what what was the next incident that

710
00:24:58,830 --> 00:24:56,000
that took place for you guys in regards

711
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,840
to a paranormal

712
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:00,960
event what's

713
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,840
that did you say the next incident

714
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:05,600
yeah i guess that was to say or what was

715
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,200
the next step i guess that in this

716
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:08,960
process i mean let's i guess let me ask

717
00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:10,559
it this way after you guys did the

718
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,640
process of cleansing the house and maybe

719
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:14,400
moving things out and helping her

720
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,760
transition to that next side yep did you

721
00:25:20,230 --> 00:25:19,279
did you kind of just tuck it away for a

722
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:20,240
little bit in the back your head like

723
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:22,080
maybe that was just at a certain point

724
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,200
did you start to think maybe it was my

725
00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:24,720
imagination maybe this didn't really

726
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,559
take place and then if so what was the

727
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:27,679
next thing that

728
00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:28,880
kind of queued it out for you to go

729
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:30,480
maybe this is this is something i really

730
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,559
really need to pay attention to yeah

731
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,720
kind of you know like i just kind of

732
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:36,480
forgot about it and then my

733
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:38,880
then my two i have two older boys

734
00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:40,240
they're in there

735
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,480
late you know they're in their early 30s

736
00:25:47,430 --> 00:25:44,640
and then late 20s

737
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,440
their dad passed away

738
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,640
and uh

739
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,360
we had to go

740
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,600
it's kind of a horrible thing but we had

741
00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:55,679
to go clean out

742
00:26:00,070 --> 00:25:57,360
their dad's apartment building because

743
00:26:02,470 --> 00:26:00,080
their grandfather was like well you know

744
00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:02,480
you know you guys can have whatever's in

745
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:03,600
there

746
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,760
clean out his apartment so that really

747
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:07,840
sucked because

748
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,120
we didn't that was an unexpected death

749
00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:12,559
and uh

750
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:15,279
so we cleaned out the apartment and my

751
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,320
boys took everything to

752
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:21,200
our house which was where my grandmother

753
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:24,240
kind of spooked us a little bit and we

754
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:27,840
took everything over there and my son

755
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:29,760
would run up the stairs

756
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:32,480
and be like mom why is the clock keep

757
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,360
going

758
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:35,279
you know like really fast and then it

759
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,440
stops at like 5 a.m in the morning

760
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,000
well i'm not really sure but my guess is

761
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:44,400
that's when dad passed away you know and

762
00:26:49,590 --> 00:26:47,600
i called dad for like days on end

763
00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,600
over and over and over again and i got

764
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,360
no answer

765
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:53,440
and then when

766
00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:54,880
uh you know

767
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,000
look

768
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:58,640
you know pat passed away blah blah blah

769
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,600
and

770
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,200
that wasn't a good thing

771
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:03,279
so i went and

772
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,240
went up to where his dad was and talked

773
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,480
to his dad a little bit and

774
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:10,240
you know things just started happening

775
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:13,120
from there so we would smell

776
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,240
beer

777
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:16,480
and cigarettes

778
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,799
and that's what got everything going so

779
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,520
the clock would go and then it would

780
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:23,360
stop at a certain time and then you

781
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:24,240
smell

782
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,240
alcohol

783
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,480
like beer stale beer

784
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,399
and that was just really

785
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:34,240
weird

786
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:36,880
for us to smell that you know but that's

787
00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:39,760
that's what started happening next

788
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:41,919
yeah and like i said i didn't believe in

789
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,320
this until my grandmother and my ex

790
00:27:47,909 --> 00:27:46,159
passed away and

791
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:47,919
you know there it was right in front of

792
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,720
me

793
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,320
and i didn't have no choice but to

794
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:52,720
believe in it

795
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,000
because they were telling me

796
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:58,640
and you also went to

797
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:00,720
um a reading or

798
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:02,720
psychic

799
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:04,960
that could be a story for tonight too

800
00:28:08,310 --> 00:28:07,120
i went to a psychic and yeah they did

801
00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,320
tell me

802
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:10,240
that

803
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:12,559
unfortunately which i don't really like

804
00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,480
i kind of have a little bit of a psychic

805
00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:16,399
ability and so does my one of my

806
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,360
children

807
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,399
not zach but one of my other boys

808
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,720
and that i don't like that i don't like

809
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,720
that gut feeling that i get and then i

810
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:26,960
you know things are real

811
00:28:32,630 --> 00:28:28,840
i don't like that

812
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:32,640
but can't deal with it yep

813
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:35,919
for sure for sure that's you know i and

814
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,679
i guess i can't speak directly to this i

815
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:39,039
i certainly can't because it's not

816
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,960
something it's not a gift why maybe some

817
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,320
don't view it as a gift some might do it

818
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:44,159
as a you know a burden or across the

819
00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:45,360
bear but

820
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:48,320
i would thank the burden sometimes

821
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,110
i don't

822
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,039
think it's a burden my cousin seems to

823
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,960
think it's a gift

824
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,880
yeah well i was gonna say to each their

825
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:00,399
own i mean you never know i but i could

826
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,000
see how it'd be a lot if those that have

827
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:04,240
passed maybe are coming to you

828
00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:06,159
and maybe you're you're the only tie

829
00:29:09,750 --> 00:29:08,000
between them and that's next

830
00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,760
the next realm whatever the next step is

831
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,760
for them and and they're trying to maybe

832
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:13,200
finish some sort of unfinished business

833
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,720
but for that person have to deal with

834
00:29:19,510 --> 00:29:17,039
that that's a lot yeah you know

835
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,520
i mean i can tell you this um there were

836
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:21,840
times when like i was taking

837
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,440
some college courses and uh

838
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,279
you know i'm

839
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:29,520
this is a little creepy i don't really

840
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,399
like to tell about it but

841
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:34,320
you know there was like uh

842
00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:37,440
people wanted to look like double doors

843
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:40,880
and uh i was sitting doing my homework

844
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,600
at like three o'clock in the morning

845
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,840
and this is a little freaky i don't like

846
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:47,039
it

847
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:48,240
but

848
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,279
doing my homework and all of a sudden

849
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,799
i'm like

850
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:55,520
oh hell no and i look

851
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:58,799
and yep there's there's like an image

852
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,159
and

853
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,679
it's my axe

854
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,279
and i you know it was a little

855
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,720
uncomfortable

856
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:06,720
and i'm like i don't really want to be

857
00:30:11,990 --> 00:30:10,159
here right now so i go in and i jump in

858
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:12,000
bed with my hubby

859
00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:19,430
first before i jump in bed i'm by the

860
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:21,679
door and i go to turn off the light and

861
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:22,640
i hear

862
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,080
shirley

863
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:26,720
like really quietly and it's in the

864
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,120
voice of my ex and i'm like oh hell no

865
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,360
and i literally jumped from the doorway

866
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,600
into the bed

867
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,480
i did not like that feeling at all wow

868
00:30:41,190 --> 00:30:38,559
yeah that gave me goosebumps

869
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:41,200
it gave me goosebumps trust me when i

870
00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:44,720
tell you i did not like it

871
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:46,720
yeah

872
00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:48,480
no

873
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:54,399
ever since i've just

874
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,520
i don't know

875
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,559
you know and and i went to a uh

876
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,559
psychic and that's what she told me i

877
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,919
had me

878
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,320
and one of my children have psychic

879
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:06,799
abilities

880
00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:12,389
not necessarily liking that but at the

881
00:31:15,909 --> 00:31:13,919
same time

882
00:31:18,389 --> 00:31:15,919
you know i could tell you that

883
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,399
my gut feeling is usually always on the

884
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:19,840
money

885
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,559
that because he's had some girlfriends

886
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,880
that probably weren't very good for him

887
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,039
and i explained that to him and he's

888
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,120
like how do you know all this stuff mom

889
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,080
i'm like i don't know but i just know it

890
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:36,399
so moms always know

891
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,679
well it's either a sick sense a psychic

892
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:40,960
ability

893
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,000
or it's just a mother motherly instinct

894
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:46,799
i really don't know for sure but i'm i'm

895
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,320
not real comfortable with it all the

896
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,870
now so that was because that was the

897
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:53,919
question i was going to ask you that was

898
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,360
the experience essentially but you went

899
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:57,360
to the sidekick you said you had an

900
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:58,480
interesting experience i just want to

901
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:59,360
make sure because one of our listeners

902
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,720
was asking in regards to that is that

903
00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:02,799
essentially the story for that aspect of

904
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:06,240
it okay we'll tell the whole story

905
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:09,039
which part of the whole like

906
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,480
psychics being at the psychics and uh i

907
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,600
thought that it was kind of vague

908
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:18,559
until she started explaining things that

909
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,950
in certain aspects of our lives and i'm

910
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:26,399
like

911
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:27,360
no

912
00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,760
me and that would be my ex

913
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,679
and that was the one that passed away

914
00:32:36,630 --> 00:32:34,559
and

915
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:36,640
i was like no

916
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:37,440
no

917
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:45,200
do at really late at night that

918
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:46,799
people

919
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,480
don't normally do or shouldn't even know

920
00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:50,080
about

921
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,360
right so yeah i'm usually pretty

922
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,880
skeptical when it comes to that stuff

923
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:54,720
but if somebody was bringing up

924
00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,720
information like that that only one

925
00:33:01,830 --> 00:32:58,640
other person would know than

926
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:01,840
that yeah like um you know not to be

927
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:04,640
weird or anything but

928
00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,080
i mean i wish i couldn't even tell you

929
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:08,159
guys this stuff like this yeah we might

930
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,519
have to switch to a different channel no

931
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,080
oh but we used to have sex in the

932
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:15,840
hallway

933
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:18,159
late at night like two or three in the

934
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,240
middle of the night and nobody else knew

935
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,480
that but him and i and nobody ever

936
00:33:26,149 --> 00:33:24,480
caught us

937
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:26,159
and that didn't invent anything that

938
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:27,840
anybody else should have ever known

939
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,960
about

940
00:33:33,029 --> 00:33:31,120
right and that was really embarrassing

941
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,039
and that's when i started crying on the

942
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:35,039
tape and then she stopped the tape and

943
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,000
then

944
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:38,559
she you know continued the tape after

945
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,600
that but

946
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,360
that that's not cool i'd hate to see the

947
00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:43,600
comments i don't know that

948
00:33:47,029 --> 00:33:45,760
i'm just saying

949
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,039
really quick too because what i would

950
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,120
like to do is move uh in the same

951
00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:51,360
chronological order after this event uh

952
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:53,039
but one of our listeners louis von says

953
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,799
what's up brother has a question for you

954
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,600
said

955
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,279
i have so many questions does she

956
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,240
believe or ever had a ghost or spirit be

957
00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:02,240
physical i felt something pulling my

958
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:04,559
feet my grandpa had the same experience

959
00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:05,440
so

960
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,880
essentially that's what they're they're

961
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:08,720
interested in have you and if it rolls

962
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,839
into the next part of your story that's

963
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,919
completely okay but have you ever had a

964
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,159
physical interaction with it with the be

965
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:15,599
personally

966
00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:20,960
personal experience however my daughter

967
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:24,000
came to me one day and said i saw him i

968
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:24,879
saw

969
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:29,520
passed away okay she passed away in

970
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:31,040
2015.

971
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:32,720
she said i saw a light it was like a

972
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,679
brown light and i'm like okay it must be

973
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,119
an orb

974
00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,200
and uh

975
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:41,119
i didn't i didn't

976
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,399
like pursue that okay i didn't like ask

977
00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:46,240
any more questions about that and then

978
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,320
zach came to me and he said hey mom mom

979
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:52,879
i saw a light

980
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:55,679
a round light and i'm like

981
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:58,000
okay it's like an orb

982
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,839
like an orb

983
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,599
pretty much and i'm like

984
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,480
okay

985
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:04,640
and then i left that alone i didn't like

986
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:07,119
it i didn't explore that any further

987
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,920
with

988
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:10,400
either one of my children and then my

989
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:12,960
and then my uh my mom's boyfriend came

990
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,560
over

991
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:16,320
this was after she passed away like a

992
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,079
year later

993
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:21,280
and uh my sister was there too we all

994
00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:24,560
went out and he had a few drinks and

995
00:35:29,109 --> 00:35:26,960
i'm sitting there at the table with my

996
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,119
sister and she's like hey

997
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,760
like yeah she's like i just saw

998
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,920
something and i'm like okay what was it

999
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,160
and she's like i just saw a light it was

1000
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,480
like a round light and it went from

1001
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,560
the kids room to your room back to the

1002
00:35:45,829 --> 00:35:42,240
kids room

1003
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,839
i'm like really and she's like yeah and

1004
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,240
i'm like okay well both of the kids have

1005
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:50,160
told me the same story i've never talked

1006
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:51,680
to them about that

1007
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,599
and i've never you know this is the

1008
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:55,920
first time i'm telling you about it

1009
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:59,200
so i'm assuming my mom

1010
00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:00,480
because

1011
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:02,000
you know she was the next one that

1012
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,200
passed away

1013
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,280
and literally the last one that passed

1014
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:06,480
away that i

1015
00:36:11,109 --> 00:36:09,119
really loved and

1016
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,119
so that's the only thing that's the only

1017
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,520
way i can explain that is that it was

1018
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,560
her orb and they three of them saw it

1019
00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,640
i've never seen it

1020
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:20,800
but it was all different times and the

1021
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:24,079
only thing that i experienced was when

1022
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,800
my stepmom said to me

1023
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,480
no your brother should really be

1024
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:31,119
involved with getting some ashes from

1025
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:32,800
your mom

1026
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,400
and i'm like you know if my brother came

1027
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,400
to me and apologized

1028
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:38,480
maybe i would give you know give him

1029
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,960
some ashes of my mom but you know he's

1030
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:42,480
he's kind of

1031
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:45,280
not a very nice person and you know i

1032
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:47,040
don't feel like i should owe him

1033
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,280
anything maybe if he apologized for the

1034
00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:51,920
way he treated me and my mom during the

1035
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,680
time of her death

1036
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,240
maybe then i would give him some ashes

1037
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:58,720
well then my door

1038
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,839
i had my door shut i had to work at like

1039
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:03,520
two i had to be up at two in the morning

1040
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:04,800
be to work

1041
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:07,280
and then all of a sudden my door opened

1042
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,040
and slammed

1043
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:11,520
so i'm yelling to

1044
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,000
my son and i'm yelling to my daughter

1045
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:16,480
like hey

1046
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,640
did you guys why are you guys coming to

1047
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:20,800
my room that's so late at night

1048
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,760
but then what ended up happening was

1049
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:25,760
i got up and i went to look and neither

1050
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:28,400
one of them were even awake

1051
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:29,920
so then i'm thinking

1052
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,079
my mom was really upset that i was gonna

1053
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:34,400
even gonna give my brother any ashes

1054
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:37,440
because you know he was just so mean to

1055
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,720
her

1056
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:41,119
like on a tuesday and my mom died on a

1057
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:42,320
saturday

1058
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:46,079
and she you know she had cancer and

1059
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,920
she came home with us which i told him

1060
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,520
that she should not come home with me

1061
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,960
that i didn't want

1062
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:52,240
her to come home with me because she

1063
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:55,520
wasn't even eating at the hospital

1064
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,480
and then

1065
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:58,960
you know they let her come home and

1066
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:01,280
that's you know my brother was kind of

1067
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:04,720
not very nice to her at all and then all

1068
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,839
that happened and i was just like

1069
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,520
yeah yeah you're very connected and

1070
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,599
sounds like

1071
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:13,680
yeah i don't really like it a little too

1072
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:16,720
connected for my liking and actually the

1073
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:18,960
psychic told me if you just let your

1074
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:21,359
ex-husband come in

1075
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:22,320
you can

1076
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,960
like flourish from that and

1077
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,359
you know do a lot from that and i'm like

1078
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:30,000
no no i don't even like it but the thing

1079
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,960
is

1080
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,440
some spirits act like they're part of

1081
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:35,200
the family but they aren't and then

1082
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:37,280
they're bad spirits i understand that

1083
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,000
but

1084
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,720
even even just not even thinking about

1085
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:42,800
that i don't like

1086
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,280
i don't like feeling that way i would

1087
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,839
just rather not

1088
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,720
yeah

1089
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:50,000
that's just my

1090
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:55,200
how i am and who i am

1091
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,359
i i'd rather not but on the other hand

1092
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:59,839
my cousin would rather

1093
00:39:05,589 --> 00:39:00,720
feel

1094
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,599
and i just rather not

1095
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:07,440
yeah i want to hear from her a little

1096
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,960
bit she had some cool stories earlier

1097
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:12,720
and

1098
00:39:16,790 --> 00:39:16,079
hey guys hey how's it going good how are

1099
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,800
you

1100
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:18,480
good

1101
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:21,839
so yeah so i actually do believe i've

1102
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,520
always believed and i have had some

1103
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,119
things happen to me

1104
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,160
um my father had passed away from cancer

1105
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:32,000
um he had lung cancer and it went to his

1106
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,200
liver

1107
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,000
and my dad and i were

1108
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:38,880
and uh so he had passed away i was about

1109
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,520
11 10 after 11

1110
00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,240
on the 24th of january 2018

1111
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,800
and i had left

1112
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,880
and actually what happened is my friend

1113
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,960
was still there and he said that my dad

1114
00:39:55,190 --> 00:39:52,880
had a walker it was my grandmother's

1115
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,200
walker that passed away and the walker

1116
00:39:58,230 --> 00:39:57,200
was sitting in the living room

1117
00:40:00,069 --> 00:39:58,240
and

1118
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,079
actually what happened is the walker

1119
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:02,400
like traveled the entire side from the

1120
00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:04,240
living room to the kitchen

1121
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,680
and i didn't know this because i wasn't

1122
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:06,720
there

1123
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:08,480
and he told me like a couple weeks later

1124
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,520
he's like well you know i just want to

1125
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:11,040
let you know your dad probably is still

1126
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,640
here and i just started crying and i'm

1127
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:15,200
like i can't no i can't do this

1128
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:16,160
um

1129
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,920
i cannot have this happen like he needs

1130
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,920
to move on once you lose your body you

1131
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,280
have to leave

1132
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:23,680
and he had come through my phone he had

1133
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,560
come through his girlfriend's at work

1134
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:28,319
she was sitting there at her desk and

1135
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,000
she had like a bowl

1136
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,640
sitting by uh by her desk and the bowl

1137
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:34,079
just literally

1138
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:36,800
jumped on the floor and broke

1139
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,920
and we're like wow really um

1140
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,319
so anyway so i was gonna actually we

1141
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:44,319
were gonna sage the house

1142
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:45,119
and

1143
00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:46,640
because i was just scared to death that

1144
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:49,200
he was still stuck here but from what i

1145
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,040
understand is sometimes when you lose

1146
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,000
your body you are so used to being in

1147
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:57,359
this place that it takes time to move on

1148
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,160
so

1149
00:41:02,069 --> 00:41:01,119
he actually did move on thank goodness

1150
00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,079
um

1151
00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,880
but that was you know that was pretty

1152
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,200
that was pretty scary for me

1153
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,160
um also my dad had had a necklace and my

1154
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,079
uncle gave it to him

1155
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,000
and i don't remember what it was

1156
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:15,760
um but it was like a protection necklace

1157
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,319
something like that and then my dad um

1158
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:21,040
had broke and the chain broke

1159
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,599
and i think that's when um he had gotten

1160
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,280
cancer and that's kind of that's kind of

1161
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,640
crazy

1162
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,760
um

1163
00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,040
to me but

1164
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:31,040
he had come through to me a lot of times

1165
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:32,480
through the phone

1166
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,520
um

1167
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,680
my phone would just

1168
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,200
the only way i can describe it and it's

1169
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,280
the weirdest weirdest way to describe it

1170
00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:41,760
is like charlie the chocolate factory

1171
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,400
when the little the little guy gets in

1172
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,240
the camera and then he's a million

1173
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,359
pieces all up above the camera and then

1174
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:50,640
he's like floating around in little

1175
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:52,960
particles and that's what happened on my

1176
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:54,720
phone just for maybe

1177
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:58,319
10 20 seconds recently right yeah i mean

1178
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,160
dad died quite a few years ago and um

1179
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:04,319
it just it like randomly what happened

1180
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,920
i'm like okay this this can't be a

1181
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:07,440
coincidence

1182
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:08,319
um

1183
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,160
but yeah i mean i believe that you know

1184
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:12,079
when you lose somebody

1185
00:42:16,870 --> 00:42:15,599
um you know they're still there with you

1186
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:16,880
and

1187
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:20,240
they show up in different ways for sure

1188
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:21,119
um

1189
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:24,880
definitely if you can go and see

1190
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,319
a psychic or a medium

1191
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:30,560
and people that can get through to the

1192
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,800
other side because sometimes we have the

1193
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,280
ability we just don't know how to use

1194
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,680
the ability i would say we don't want to

1195
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:39,359
or we don't want to

1196
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:42,839
um yeah i would like to i i

1197
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,480
i know because once you once you lose

1198
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,400
that person that's so very close to you

1199
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,240
in your life you just want to know that

1200
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,160
they're still there and they absolutely

1201
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,720
are still there their energy once we

1202
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:56,319
lose our body where nothing but energy

1203
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,839
and energy can go through electricity it

1204
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,520
can go through light he can go through

1205
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,680
anywhere that he needs to go

1206
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,960
because sometimes

1207
00:43:06,710 --> 00:43:04,319
like it just

1208
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:06,720
flickering yeah it just doesn't always

1209
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,560
they can't communicate the way that they

1210
00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,480
could when like we're communicating

1211
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,680
right now right you know but it is it is

1212
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:15,680
absolutely you know it's pretty amazing

1213
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:16,560
stuff

1214
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:17,839
and might i have the pleasure to have

1215
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:19,760
known i forgot to ask what was your name

1216
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,920
by the way oh it's billy

1217
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,760
billy very nice thank you very much as

1218
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,599
well for making time to share this and

1219
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,040
for all three of you for taking the time

1220
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,720
to share what are some very personal

1221
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,800
stories to you guys we really appreciate

1222
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,400
that

1223
00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:33,920
absolutely thank you guys for coming on

1224
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:34,800
here

1225
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,960
like i said just absolutely believe in

1226
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,880
your instincts and leave in your gut and

1227
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:42,240
believe in what you see because

1228
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:48,390
am i really seeing what i'm seeing but

1229
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,160
trust me when i tell you you really are

1230
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,240
seeing what you're seeing and believe me

1231
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:55,119
when i tell you when you have a gut

1232
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,480
feeling

1233
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,280
it's really real trust it

1234
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:01,359
yeah go go with your gut

1235
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:02,800
just go with your gut

1236
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:05,119
always go with your gut absolutely no

1237
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:06,720
doubt

1238
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:08,880
now billy were you involved for some of

1239
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,319
these instances that were discussed

1240
00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:11,920
tonight with some of the encounters i

1241
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,359
know that you guys mentioned that with

1242
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,119
zach he had some major encounters with

1243
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:17,280
your with your mother um

1244
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,640
was that kind of the next step in the

1245
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,319
chronological order here

1246
00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:22,319
um no actually shirley and i are cousins

1247
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,079
we're not sisters

1248
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,839
um so we

1249
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:27,599
no i did not have the same encounters

1250
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:32,230
yeah

1251
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:33,920
now have you had encounters yourself

1252
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,200
then i guess what since we have you on

1253
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,359
with us right now have you had

1254
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:39,520
any encounters yourself

1255
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,280
um recently i just had i i get some

1256
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:45,599
really weird stuff going on my phone

1257
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,640
um just kind of like

1258
00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:50,079
i don't even know how to describe it

1259
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,000
just yeah just

1260
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:54,480
real quick and i mean through my earbud

1261
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,040
and i've had these for over a year

1262
00:45:01,990 --> 00:44:59,839
um but every time i think about my dad

1263
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,000
i'm really like just you know just

1264
00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:04,400
wandering you know doing my job thinking

1265
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,319
about them things here and there

1266
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,920
and then i'll just have kind of some

1267
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:10,000
strange things happen and i'm like okay

1268
00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:12,079
it's gotta be my dad

1269
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:14,640
i have to do that and here he is hi dad

1270
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:16,400
what are you doing and actually this

1271
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:18,640
morning my mom and i went up and planted

1272
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,680
some flowers at his grave um because we

1273
00:45:26,069 --> 00:45:23,359
were trying to figure out all summer

1274
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:26,079
long what we wanted to do

1275
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,520
and we couldn't figure it out so she

1276
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:29,440
bought some tulips and stuff like that

1277
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,960
so you have to plant those in the fall

1278
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,400
so we went up there today so i'm

1279
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,920
thinking okay it's gotta be my dad

1280
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:36,160
because we're thinking about him and

1281
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:38,240
he usually comes through like that just

1282
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,359
um and then i had gone to uh uh she's

1283
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,920
not a psychic she's a medium

1284
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:46,400
mediums really can kind of speak to the

1285
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,240
past she can speak through the souls

1286
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,000
that have gone before

1287
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,240
um whereas a psychic is more like they

1288
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,400
can kind of read your future

1289
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,800
they can tune in more into you

1290
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,800
so i always went to a medium so she can

1291
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,280
speak to the people that i've lost

1292
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:04,480
and she really um you know

1293
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,920
would tell me that you know your dad's

1294
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,920
going to come through electronics he's

1295
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:10,240
going to come through things like that

1296
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,640
um you know because he is energy now and

1297
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:14,400
energy can travel through any energy

1298
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:16,000
that they choose

1299
00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:17,920
and he absolutely does

1300
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:19,440
and he doesn't do it all the time but he

1301
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:20,800
definitely does especially when i'm

1302
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,720
thinking about him i think he kind of

1303
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,119
lets me know like hey i'm still here

1304
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:27,440
um you know still want to chat with you

1305
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,200
still love you it's like yeah love you

1306
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:31,040
too dad

1307
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,359
i miss you miss you to pieces

1308
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,040
i feel like definitely

1309
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:37,440
definitely the flickering light

1310
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,960
sometimes definitely says hello i'm here

1311
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:42,160
yeah

1312
00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:46,960
would you guys think that perhaps anyone

1313
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:49,040
has this ability no no i think some have

1314
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,960
a heightened ability compared to others

1315
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:52,079
but do you think that there are those

1316
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:53,440
that could have uh

1317
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,280
ability learned that all of us have this

1318
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,720
going on we've just tuned it out over

1319
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,839
time

1320
00:47:04,390 --> 00:46:59,839
absolutely

1321
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:04,400
the ability i think that especially

1322
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:05,760
children so here's

1323
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,839
here's one little story i had so i have

1324
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:10,720
a show i have a story for that one too

1325
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,880
so when my dad first passed away my

1326
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:14,800
brother um

1327
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,680
he had a little girl my niece and she

1328
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:19,119
was

1329
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:27,119
medium and she had said oh your dad is

1330
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,400
standing right behind you and he has

1331
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:30,800
hands on your shoulder and of course she

1332
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:32,559
was little and you know kids have the

1333
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,520
ability um so anyway so she kept going

1334
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,400
hot hot hot hot as she's sitting there

1335
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:40,079
saying your dad's hands are on your

1336
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,359
shoulders and we're looking around we're

1337
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:43,119
going there's nothing hot there's

1338
00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,160
nothing changed nothing at all and there

1339
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,599
is um you know my niece and my brother

1340
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:51,200
just started crying like you got to be

1341
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,599
kidding me so yes i absolutely believe

1342
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:56,079
that when we're kids we have no choice

1343
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,119
but to

1344
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,160
feel what's going on around us

1345
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:03,839
when we get older we choose to kind of

1346
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:06,800
have some logical thinking like well if

1347
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:09,119
i can't see it's not there but as kids

1348
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,119
we don't have that logical thinking yet

1349
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:13,040
we're not trained and attuned to that

1350
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,160
yet so if i could add to that

1351
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:17,440
my uh

1352
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,280
grandson so okay here's here's an a

1353
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:22,800
different story

1354
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:23,760
my

1355
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,480
grandmother okay so like her dad's mom

1356
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,880
passed away and then her grandmother

1357
00:48:34,549 --> 00:48:33,200
which would be my mom

1358
00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:34,559
passed away

1359
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,280
they passed a year away a year

1360
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:39,839
away from each other okay so in november

1361
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:42,480
literally in november

1362
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,040
and uh

1363
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,520
so my my little grandson sitting in the

1364
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,040
kitchen one day and my daughter got

1365
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:51,040
freaked out because i'm like he's

1366
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:53,119
you know he's like waving

1367
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:57,280
like waving like a real lop and i'm like

1368
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,119
okay he's waving at somebody but i don't

1369
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,960
know who he's waving at

1370
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:02,640
and the only thing i can think of is

1371
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:05,839
both grandmas because both grandmas were

1372
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,319
really close to destiny

1373
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:10,319
which is my daughter

1374
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:12,160
and uh

1375
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:13,119
you know

1376
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,160
it's just

1377
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,400
everything happened like with my

1378
00:49:20,790 --> 00:49:18,480
daughter with her pregnancy

1379
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:20,800
her grandmother

1380
00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:24,079
on my mom on not on my side but on her

1381
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:25,440
dad's side

1382
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,880
so her dad's mom passed away

1383
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:31,200
first and uh it would be everything

1384
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,480
hearts

1385
00:49:36,790 --> 00:49:34,640
so she would pee in the toilet and

1386
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,800
they'd be like a heart

1387
00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:38,000
of blood

1388
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,720
like

1389
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:41,520
i'm i i swear to god if god sharked me

1390
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,079
dead right now i swear to god if she was

1391
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:46,160
here she would tell you this yes

1392
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,680
so like all hearts everything hearts so

1393
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:51,599
she would move hertz of blood in the

1394
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,119
toilet i'm like

1395
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:55,680
those two plan this pregnancy i'm gonna

1396
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:56,839
choke them

1397
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,680
both even though they're not in here

1398
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,280
but anyway

1399
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,160
no seriously on a serious note

1400
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,480
her grandmother would everything hearts

1401
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,680
her her grandmother

1402
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,520
everything hurts

1403
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,280
and it was you know it was kind of

1404
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,720
freaky

1405
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,640
you know and we'd be walking down the

1406
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,160
street and i'd be like

1407
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,400
oh there's a leaf and it looks like a

1408
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:22,400
heart i better take a picture

1409
00:50:28,069 --> 00:50:25,119
but no seriously in all real

1410
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:28,079
reality that's what happened

1411
00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:29,920
so

1412
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,800
it's kind of weird you know the stuff is

1413
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:35,040
really weird

1414
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:38,880
absolutely but it really does happen

1415
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:41,119
like i said they made they all made a

1416
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:46,069
after we just got done talking about all

1417
00:50:49,030 --> 00:50:47,520
of it you know like

1418
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,040
we'll have more stories for you guys oh

1419
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:51,359
well also say what we'll do is because

1420
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,720
we do have some other listeners in here

1421
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:54,000
as well so what i'd like to do is give

1422
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,760
you guys about i don't know how much

1423
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,880
more you have to share um but i i'd like

1424
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:00,640
to give you guys uh some time here to

1425
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,839
share it because zach we haven't gotten

1426
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,119
to what might have happened to you in

1427
00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,960
your counter so if you're okay with

1428
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:06,079
sharing that or whatever you guys think

1429
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:07,520
you'd like to share maybe the next say

1430
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:09,280
10-10 minutes here

1431
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,559
um feel free to

1432
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,559
i can share a little bit more but we'll

1433
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,079
wait

1434
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:17,920
okay okay no worries yeah no we can

1435
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:19,200
always set up another time to have you

1436
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,640
back on or once we get to some other

1437
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:22,480
guests if they have time

1438
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,160
off because we'll be on until almost

1439
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,240
midnight tonight if you want to know

1440
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:28,160
i'll tell you the truth

1441
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:28,960
so

1442
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,400
my my older dad my older children's dad

1443
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,559
i have two older children

1444
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,280
with a different dad okay

1445
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,790
that was the one that would you know set

1446
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,240
the clocks

1447
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:47,280
and all that smoke around you uh

1448
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:48,559
yeah

1449
00:51:54,470 --> 00:51:51,680
but anyway he comes back in in in a

1450
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,480
smoke in a smoke cell a smell like a

1451
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:56,079
cigarette smoke

1452
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,319
and before he would come back like

1453
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,480
before he would come back at my old

1454
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:02,160
house in a

1455
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:04,960
you know alcohol in a cigarette smell

1456
00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:07,440
and almost like like a formaldehyde

1457
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:10,400
smell which was really weird to me but

1458
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:12,240
made sense because he was kind of

1459
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:16,559
decayed by the time they found him past

1460
00:52:21,270 --> 00:52:18,400
away and he was

1461
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:21,280
you know in his chair for a few days and

1462
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:22,400
uh

1463
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:24,720
that was not cool because i had to go in

1464
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:27,920
and clean out the apartment and um

1465
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,400
i would couldn't breathe right next to

1466
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:32,400
the chair

1467
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,559
i said to my older son i'm like i can't

1468
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,440
breathe next to the chair because

1469
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,119
there's something about the chair with

1470
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:41,839
your dad i can't breathe

1471
00:52:47,190 --> 00:52:43,920
and uh

1472
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:47,200
it ended up being where that particular

1473
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:49,040
psychic told me that i had psychic

1474
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:53,109
said

1475
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,240
you know

1476
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:56,000
pat always

1477
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:58,400
wan try to talk to your daughter which

1478
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,280
was

1479
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:01,440
three at the time

1480
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:02,559
and uh

1481
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,359
he would try to talk to her

1482
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:07,280
and uh

1483
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:09,200
she wouldn't really talk to him

1484
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:11,280
you know he's like oh you know i really

1485
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:13,440
like barney but i haven't watched barney

1486
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:16,800
since you know your older brother

1487
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,920
um

1488
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,440
you know he got to sit there and watch

1489
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:21,359
barney with her

1490
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:22,800
but

1491
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,960
i don't know it's just weird stuff

1492
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:26,640
because he would try to get her to talk

1493
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,000
to him and then after he passed away

1494
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:32,880
she was on the couch one night and i

1495
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:35,200
was remarried at that point and i said

1496
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,680
to my husband i said

1497
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,000
destiny is having a full-on conversation

1498
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,960
out there and this is kind of weird

1499
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:44,960
and he's like nah she's probably just

1500
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:48,319
dreaming but the stuff that she told me

1501
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,559
a few years later like when she was a

1502
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:52,800
teenager she was like you know you know

1503
00:53:58,150 --> 00:53:55,040
i did have a conversation with pat i

1504
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:58,160
asked him how he flew through the window

1505
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,119
and

1506
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:01,440
you know she would ask him you know

1507
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:03,119
questions and

1508
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,200
and stuff like that which

1509
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:08,079
i thought was really weird

1510
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:09,200
give me a

1511
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,839
weird gut feeling and

1512
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,280
but he for

1513
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,160
so long tried to get her to talk to him

1514
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,000
and she would not ever

1515
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:20,079
speak to him

1516
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:23,599
but then when he flew through the window

1517
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,160
she it's because kids have these they do

1518
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:28,480
have their ability they do and kids and

1519
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,720
animals have that ability yes they for

1520
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,880
sure do

1521
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:34,880
but that's that's that's what happened

1522
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,839
there and i was like okay and then after

1523
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,440
she had her son

1524
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,119
my daughter had her son

1525
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,760
she was 19 she had her baby

1526
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:46,000
she was 18 when she had much now she's

1527
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,960
19 but when when the baby first came

1528
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,440
home i'm like

1529
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,280
do you smell that smell

1530
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,359
and they're like yeah i smell cigarette

1531
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,680
smell and that's how he comes to us in a

1532
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:59,200
cigarette smell

1533
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:00,720
my husband

1534
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,440
or no it's usually always cigarettes now

1535
00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:05,200
yeah and

1536
00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,040
literally

1537
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,520
i was over my grandson

1538
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,040
we were all in the living room there was

1539
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:12,960
like me zach

1540
00:55:18,870 --> 00:55:16,160
hunter and destiny and kobe

1541
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,880
and literally we could all smell the

1542
00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,640
cigarette smoke maybe not kobe because

1543
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,880
he was a baby he didn't tell us but

1544
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,040
literally smell that cigarette smoke and

1545
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,440
i'm like y'all smell that i'm like pat's

1546
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:29,839
come to visit wow that's pretty that's

1547
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:32,400
cool it's kind of drinking though if you

1548
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,760
think about that i don't really like it

1549
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,680
but i don't think it is i mean and the

1550
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:38,960
reason i say that is just for the

1551
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:40,880
reasoning that i you know we've heard

1552
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,280
many other people talk about past

1553
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,760
unloved ones manifesting in that manner

1554
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:47,520
before they see them before they even

1555
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,640
feel the energy they'll actually get

1556
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,000
that smell

1557
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,160
um which is really intriguing to me but

1558
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,240
it's so interesting how uh um

1559
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,599
a smell and i think we've all

1560
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,200
experienced this maybe you

1561
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,720
used to have a certain cooked meal when

1562
00:56:01,990 --> 00:55:59,920
you were a kid at your grandparents

1563
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:02,000
house or a certain candle associated

1564
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,319
place and it brings back all those

1565
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:06,960
memories upon that smell or catching a

1566
00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:11,520
whiff of it so to me i it makes sense um

1567
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,640
so

1568
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,119
but uh what i'd like to do is uh really

1569
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:17,040
quick um because we do have we've got

1570
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,160
we're getting stacked up we've got a

1571
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:19,760
couple more in the back which is a good

1572
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:21,200
thing you guys anybody who wants to join

1573
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,640
tonight please feel free to hop on and

1574
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,000
share stories

1575
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,319
um so zack did you want to share

1576
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,920
anything tonight before you guys get out

1577
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:29,200
of here or would you like to save that

1578
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:35,430
i mean i really want to share it but

1579
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,400
no problem

1580
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:38,160
probably another time but like because

1581
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,280
you said you have other people in the

1582
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,200
back and stuff we have time we have list

1583
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:43,200
we have two other people and we're

1584
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:44,799
trying to give time for everybody so i i

1585
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,079
would love we're here to hear ghost

1586
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:48,799
stories so please feel free to all right

1587
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:51,040
i have one little short run for you guys

1588
00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:52,319
go ahead dude

1589
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:57,589
and i always told you mamas always

1590
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,270
so

1591
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,359
after my grandmother was my mom after my

1592
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:05,119
grandma passed away

1593
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,160
um

1594
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,839
my mom's mom

1595
00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:09,520
uh

1596
00:57:12,789 --> 00:57:11,040
she told me

1597
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,799
to stay out of her room

1598
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:14,720
one day and well i didn't listen when

1599
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:17,200
she left and they got me a soda well

1600
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:19,359
when i was bending down to get the soda

1601
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:22,240
my shirt lifted up halfway off my back

1602
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:25,520
and then like slammed down

1603
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:27,839
and i was like

1604
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,640
what the hell is going on here

1605
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:32,640
mom gets home and

1606
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:34,720
she's like i was all freaked out she's

1607
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:37,040
like what happened i'm like

1608
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,839
well

1609
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,440
my shirt let's go get a soda out of your

1610
00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,520
bedroom and my shirt lift up halfway off

1611
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:43,920
my back and slam down and she's like i

1612
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,920
told you it's that room

1613
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:47,920
and then every time i don't listen to

1614
00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:51,839
her something always happens to me like

1615
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:56,079
i told you momma are always watching you

1616
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:58,799
it's just crazy because

1617
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:01,839
that's just freaky to me

1618
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:04,079
like i literally went to bend down like

1619
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,440
not even that much and my shirt just

1620
00:58:08,710 --> 00:58:07,200
went

1621
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,720
and then back down did it feel like

1622
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:10,079
something grabbed the shirt or did it

1623
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,359
there's no way that could have happened

1624
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:13,119
without you know did it feel i don't

1625
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,200
know how to explain it like it's just

1626
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:17,200
weird to me

1627
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:18,640
right

1628
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,040
i've had other experiences as well but

1629
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:23,520
i'll save those for another time because

1630
00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:25,680
i know you have other people in the back

1631
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,280
hey zach did it feel like somebody

1632
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:28,880
grabbed the shirt and moved it with

1633
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:31,040
their hand or did it feel like wind did

1634
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,559
it it felt like you know i felt like

1635
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:35,119
someone grabbed my shirt and lifted it

1636
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:36,799
up halfway up from the back like it was

1637
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:40,240
up to my almost up to my shoulders like

1638
00:58:44,870 --> 00:58:42,079
and actually

1639
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:44,880
story is is when he told me about that i

1640
00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:47,520
laughed and i said i told you mom was

1641
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,079
always watching you

1642
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,520
and which is true

1643
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:53,599
like sunsaver said you're the the mom

1644
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:55,760
curse

1645
00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,390
wow

1646
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,319
that's pretty cool well i want to thank

1647
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:03,760
all three of you first of all we'll have

1648
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,680
to do this again for sure chad obviously

1649
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:07,119
uh you guys all know each other so

1650
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,640
please please stay in touch and i'd love

1651
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,240
to maybe get another time set up to to

1652
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,240
bring you guys on and share some more of

1653
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:14,160
these stories a little more in depth um

1654
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:15,520
but i want to thank each and every one

1655
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:18,160
of you for you know taking time to get

1656
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:19,200
there tonight and share some very

1657
00:59:24,069 --> 00:59:22,400
personal experiences that you had

1658
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:24,079
yeah thanks for having us

1659
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:25,040
absolutely

1660
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,559
do you either do any of you have

1661
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:28,400
something you run like a facebook page

1662
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:29,920
or a paranormal anything in relation to

1663
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:31,200
that that you'd like to let people know

1664
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:32,559
about

1665
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:34,720
no we don't no yeah it sounds like you

1666
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,160
need to pick one

1667
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,319
if we just kind of leave that stuff

1668
00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:40,960
alone i mean

1669
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:43,200
yeah sure relax mom i just leave it

1670
00:59:46,630 --> 00:59:44,640
alone literally this is the first time

1671
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,640
she's ever talked about it like i don't

1672
00:59:49,109 --> 00:59:47,520
like to

1673
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:49,119
like go there this is her first time

1674
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,599
ever like talking about it about it a

1675
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,680
psychic so it literally is like i

1676
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,200
haven't heard half of this until she

1677
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,359
just told me about it or experienced but

1678
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:00,480
so literally the psychic told me

1679
01:00:08,789 --> 01:00:07,030
guide me along the way

1680
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,799
that you know

1681
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,480
i could probably

1682
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:13,040
move forward with this and i said i'm

1683
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:15,280
not really interested and so i'm not

1684
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:16,720
going to move forward

1685
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:19,760
forward with any of this because i don't

1686
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,880
really like that stuff

1687
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,799
i don't really like it

1688
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:26,400
you know when they got blinds that i

1689
01:00:29,589 --> 01:00:28,319
have i don't really like those either

1690
01:00:31,829 --> 01:00:29,599
but you know

1691
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:31,839
i'm usually always on the money you can

1692
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,000
ask my son with some of the people that

1693
01:00:38,150 --> 01:00:36,640
he gets involved with and

1694
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,160
i'm like exactly i'm not really

1695
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:40,240
comfortable with you know some of the

1696
01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:42,559
stuff that you're doing right now

1697
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:44,640
and later he always says to me mom how

1698
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:47,359
do you always know this stuff i said i

1699
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,160
don't know if it's a psychic ability a

1700
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:52,799
sixth sense or a mother's instinct i'm

1701
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:54,480
not sure which

1702
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:56,720
but that's just how it goes

1703
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,760
and i don't like them both

1704
01:01:02,789 --> 01:01:01,280
you never know well i'll tell you what

1705
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,799
i'm going to take you guys backstage you

1706
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:04,000
can feel free to listen that way if

1707
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,000
you'd like or you can join back in and

1708
01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,839
and watch the youtube but i i really do

1709
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,599
appreciate you sharing this experience

1710
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,960
with us tonight and i know some of those

1711
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,880
in the chat uh enjoyed hearing the story

1712
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:14,720
so i want to wish you guys a wonderful

1713
01:01:17,349 --> 01:01:16,160
evening happy halloween i know it's a

1714
01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:17,359
little early but happy halloween to the

1715
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,480
three of you

1716
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:20,799
and uh happy happy holidays as well

1717
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:22,839
happy halloween happy halloween to you

1718
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,359
guys yeah you too guys i appreciate you

1719
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:27,440
guys having us on tonight it was a fun

1720
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:28,400
time

1721
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:31,200
and we'll be back with more stories true

1722
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:38,309
have a good one guys bye

1723
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,760
man chad what do you think about that

1724
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:43,280
yeah i feel like there's still a lot

1725
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:44,480
going on there

1726
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:47,040
there's a lot going on yeah uh guys i

1727
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,640
want to remind you uh check out

1728
01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:50,880
space.radio with dave scott monday

1729
01:01:55,670 --> 01:01:53,359
through friday 12 a.m eastern time zone

1730
01:01:57,910 --> 01:01:55,680
and lynn wallington taking saturdays and

1731
01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:57,920
sundays 12 a.m eastern time zone you

1732
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,520
guys please check them out they've been

1733
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:01,280
extremely supportive of the garage here

1734
01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:02,880
and we love what they do and that's how

1735
01:02:07,029 --> 01:02:04,960
a lot of us have met and a lot of people

1736
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:07,039
hanging on the chat or because of that

1737
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:09,119
if you guys would like to be like the

1738
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,400
very gracious people that came out and

1739
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,720
share their story tonight feel free to

1740
01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:14,559
reach out to um

1741
01:02:17,430 --> 01:02:15,839
to me as well oops i put up the wrong

1742
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:17,440
one you should support as well they have

1743
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,839
a podcast.com go check them out and if

1744
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:21,680
you want to reach out to me directly you

1745
01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:23,440
can be a guest in the big willy van

1746
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,720
emailing at big willy at ufo

1747
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:27,680
garagepodcast.com once again if you're

1748
01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,760
listening podcast format or youtube

1749
01:02:32,069 --> 01:02:31,200
scroll down all that will be in the show

1750
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,079
notes

1751
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:34,400
all right it looks like we have got

1752
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:35,760
did you see this did you check out some

1753
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:37,680
of the links here chad that are are

1754
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:39,200
coming up guests here our guests that we

1755
01:02:42,230 --> 01:02:40,640
have that we're about to bring on sent

1756
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:42,240
to us they had quite a bit did you look

1757
01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:44,319
through that i clicked on the last one

1758
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,160
yeah that looked pretty interesting i

1759
01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:48,079
just had a hard time following uh the

1760
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,920
stories and reading at the same time no

1761
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,359
no worries at all

1762
01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,119
by the way i apologize i missed that

1763
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:55,359
thank you so very much for that donation

1764
01:02:59,029 --> 01:02:56,880
to the uh to the page here we really

1765
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:59,039
appreciate that he said chad smith you

1766
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,400
guys are a great team and keep the

1767
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,559
conversation rolling very well major

1768
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:04,720
props major props to chad for saving the

1769
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:05,760
day because

1770
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,280
otherwise i would have been stuck just

1771
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,680
mia no that's not going to happen i'll

1772
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:11,680
i'll be up in the woods and i'll get 5g

1773
01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:14,640
somehow i'll get on that's right

1774
01:03:17,829 --> 01:03:15,839
all right guys well let's bring in our

1775
01:03:18,789 --> 01:03:17,839
next guest uh as you guys know him and

1776
01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,799
looks like he's got a different name in

1777
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:20,960
here tonight we know him all as 509.

1778
01:03:26,069 --> 01:03:22,319
what's happening brother welcome to the

1779
01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:29,029
hey good evening boys good evening

1780
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:31,839
good to see you bud

1781
01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:34,960
yes hey is the mic working fine

1782
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,319
mike's working great sounds good

1783
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:40,480
i love that uh all right so far for the

1784
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:42,400
night was from sunny saying i'm so

1785
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:44,799
waiting for the troll the troll farter

1786
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,240
the phantom

1787
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:48,960
to come back

1788
01:03:52,309 --> 01:03:50,960
stick around stick around you never know

1789
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:52,319
he might be

1790
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:53,760
oh man

1791
01:03:57,910 --> 01:03:56,160
so uh 509 thank you first of all for

1792
01:04:00,390 --> 01:03:57,920
hopping on here tonight uh are obviously

1793
01:04:02,069 --> 01:04:00,400
discussing uh halloween a bit and we're

1794
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,079
discussing some you know ghost

1795
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:05,119
paranormal uh activity and you had some

1796
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:06,559
interesting stuff you shared backstage

1797
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:07,440
here

1798
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,480
do you want to take this away a little

1799
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:10,559
bit it looked like was in relation to

1800
01:04:18,150 --> 01:04:13,359
some of the vamp vampirian history in

1801
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:20,309
yes yes i'm not normally a fan of this

1802
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:23,039
new halloween you know the modern day go

1803
01:04:27,670 --> 01:04:26,000
on party i i am a fan of the mystic and

1804
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:27,680
you know that thinning of the veil and

1805
01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:29,119
understanding

1806
01:04:32,870 --> 01:04:31,359
what's behind reality and

1807
01:04:34,470 --> 01:04:32,880
you know one

1808
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:34,480
of those

1809
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:36,640
people that have been behind reality for

1810
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:39,119
a long long time or

1811
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:40,799
than vampires

1812
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:41,680
you know

1813
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,720
and one of the vampires is

1814
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,880
count saint germain

1815
01:04:51,190 --> 01:04:49,440
well kind of like a vampire he's more of

1816
01:04:52,630 --> 01:04:51,200
a count an alchemist he was associated

1817
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:52,640
with the vampire so let's just go ahead

1818
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,720
and leave it at that all right now he

1819
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:55,839
was a

1820
01:05:01,910 --> 01:05:00,240
alchemist he was uh probably one of the

1821
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:01,920
greatest in history and

1822
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:04,720
some say maybe one of the

1823
01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:07,680
most legendary in europe i'm i mean not

1824
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:09,839
like as a good thing

1825
01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:13,200
or a horrible thing but just for who he

1826
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:14,480
was

1827
01:05:19,750 --> 01:05:16,880
some say that he went back in time

1828
01:05:22,470 --> 01:05:19,760
and some say he's still nowadays in our

1829
01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:22,480
time so traveling across time

1830
01:05:25,670 --> 01:05:23,680
and

1831
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:25,680
you know if you think about different

1832
01:05:30,549 --> 01:05:28,319
people in history that have been related

1833
01:05:31,990 --> 01:05:30,559
to those type of stories

1834
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:32,000
you can

1835
01:05:37,670 --> 01:05:34,960
pull up the story of doc

1836
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:37,680
he transcended into a higher platform

1837
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:38,799
and

1838
01:05:43,270 --> 01:05:40,880
different time periods

1839
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:43,280
and different worlds

1840
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:44,799
and even

1841
01:05:49,750 --> 01:05:47,359
where you know some say the incans and

1842
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:49,760
the mayans and aztecs or some one of

1843
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:51,119
those or

1844
01:05:53,860 --> 01:05:53,599
they transcend it through time yet it's

1845
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:53,870
um

1846
01:05:59,589 --> 01:05:56,400
[Music]

1847
01:06:02,069 --> 01:05:59,599
quite known to be more than just a myth

1848
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,079
these you know time travelers i mean i

1849
01:06:05,829 --> 01:06:04,720
believe hitler himself was very very

1850
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:05,839
interested in

1851
01:06:12,390 --> 01:06:08,720
capturing the power of time travel to

1852
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:12,400
rule the history now count st jermaine

1853
01:06:15,829 --> 01:06:13,359
though

1854
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:15,839
has more than enough proof to go ahead

1855
01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:22,950
is there some music or something playing

1856
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,760
in the background oh i do dude oh hey i

1857
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,680
apologize i didn't realize that i

1858
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,200
actually have something about counseling

1859
01:06:31,990 --> 01:06:30,720
jermaine in the background

1860
01:06:33,510 --> 01:06:32,000
see if you guys want to know a little

1861
01:06:35,910 --> 01:06:33,520
bit more there must be some good noise

1862
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:35,920
cancellers

1863
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:37,280
if you want to know a little bit more

1864
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:38,559
you guys can go ahead and watch

1865
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:41,280
castlevania on netflix and that goes

1866
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:43,760
real deep into the esoteric and mystical

1867
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:46,559
truth and they pull up different types

1868
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:49,599
of uh information between the catholic

1869
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:50,559
church

1870
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:53,039
you know and vlad the impaler which is

1871
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:54,400
also another topic i want to go ahead

1872
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:56,880
and talk about vladimir too

1873
01:07:02,470 --> 01:07:00,480
and yes castlevania is a very good um

1874
01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,480
source i you know just to briefly

1875
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:04,480
briefly kind of just see what they're

1876
01:07:07,349 --> 01:07:05,920
talking about it's not going to tell you

1877
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,359
everything of course but

1878
01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:09,119
if you just want a little bit of a you

1879
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:11,200
know hint go ahead and watch castlevania

1880
01:07:14,630 --> 01:07:12,880
on netflix

1881
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:14,640
and also if you go ahead and want to get

1882
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,119
a deeper dive into this tinfoil hat on

1883
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,400
episode 478 he goes real deep into this

1884
01:07:25,990 --> 01:07:22,559
and uh explains a lot more than i

1885
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:26,000
can man this discount st jermaine

1886
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,920
there was some videos floating around

1887
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:30,240
between you know um let's see the last

1888
01:07:36,470 --> 01:07:33,680
40 years where he was somewhere

1889
01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,480
on air on tv and you know like i said

1890
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:38,640
he's been known to be around in our

1891
01:07:41,510 --> 01:07:39,599
times

1892
01:07:44,549 --> 01:07:41,520
and he was on air on tv you know with

1893
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:44,559
his alchemy and he had turned

1894
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:47,680
like led to gold on tv and everyone was

1895
01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:49,039
like

1896
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,559
chipping out and they never try to ever

1897
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:53,039
do that again because

1898
01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:54,480
you know

1899
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:56,480
that's really hard to do

1900
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:57,839
um

1901
01:08:02,630 --> 01:08:00,640
that's like extremely hard to do so

1902
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:02,640
i don't see what anybody would ever

1903
01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:04,799
would want to do on air again you know

1904
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:06,079
so there's something that he's been a

1905
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:07,280
bit out there though he's not

1906
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,880
necessarily you know creeping in the

1907
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:10,880
dark and in the shadows he's he's been

1908
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:17,269
yes he you know he's uh not like i said

1909
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:19,440
he wasn't the evil didn't he wasn't

1910
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:21,440
necessarily overwhelmingly good person

1911
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:22,480
you know

1912
01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:26,239
um as let's see as one of the guests i

1913
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:28,400
think said on one of the podcasts i

1914
01:08:32,550 --> 01:08:31,279
think um on space.radio i believe

1915
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:32,560
they're talking about

1916
01:08:37,749 --> 01:08:35,920
uh magic yes um and it it it

1917
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:37,759
constituting into different sides like

1918
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:39,359
you can go ahead and play around with

1919
01:08:43,669 --> 01:08:41,679
the good and bad and just be a great or

1920
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,679
like be a neutral you know that's what

1921
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,679
count st germain was he was he was that

1922
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,520
neutral magician

1923
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:49,440
he was

1924
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:55,910
you know what's interesting about this

1925
01:09:00,070 --> 01:08:58,239
stuff too is that

1926
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,080
the lore has been there forever and if

1927
01:09:03,510 --> 01:09:02,400
you go back to the and i i'm not one to

1928
01:09:05,189 --> 01:09:03,520
really talk about this it's not

1929
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,199
something i'm super educated on but the

1930
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,279
the lore of dracula that was a real

1931
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:10,000
person and i remember um

1932
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:11,279
it wasn't what he was doing wasn't

1933
01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:12,480
exactly how the story obviously got

1934
01:09:20,950 --> 01:09:19,110
and as i say it's very interesting how

1935
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:20,960
almost all this lore and all the stuff

1936
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,400
that we have over time is that they've

1937
01:09:25,990 --> 01:09:24,159
come from real places which always makes

1938
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:26,000
me wonder about stuff like

1939
01:09:28,630 --> 01:09:27,359
and i don't get too far off the pace

1940
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:28,640
here so we'll keep it more like ghoulish

1941
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:30,000
things but when it comes to like the

1942
01:09:34,630 --> 01:09:32,080
monsters that lurked in the woods or the

1943
01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:34,640
cenotars and minotaurs and stuff that

1944
01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:37,040
perhaps there was something similar to

1945
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:39,199
this let's talk about them and if we're

1946
01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:41,199
just looking at what we do nowadays with

1947
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:44,159
our genetic modification where

1948
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,799
china does things like creates chimeras

1949
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:48,480
which is actually a thing you know a

1950
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:52,000
human hybrid half man half half pig um

1951
01:09:56,229 --> 01:09:54,000
embryo which is a real thing go ahead

1952
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:56,239
and fact check that man and so we're

1953
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,239
doing it nowadays like these dudes way

1954
01:10:02,950 --> 01:09:59,760
back in the day they probably mastered

1955
01:10:07,830 --> 01:10:05,270
these mythologies they want to go ahead

1956
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:07,840
and tell you their mythology you know

1957
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:09,760
just and i mean by they you know the

1958
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:11,840
people who want to go ahead and

1959
01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:14,320
rule things you know um just to keep us

1960
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,120
like away from our spirit you know

1961
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,280
to keep us away from understanding

1962
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:21,840
what's really happening in halloween and

1963
01:10:23,830 --> 01:10:22,560
uh

1964
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,840
on all

1965
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:26,000
sides of reality

1966
01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,159
yeah you know the less we know them the

1967
01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:31,440
more that they can control

1968
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,000
100 agree with that i do

1969
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:36,000
now i just have to ask to be fair and i

1970
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,880
know you have some other stuff you want

1971
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:38,719
to share here too so please do it but i

1972
01:10:43,350 --> 01:10:40,400
just did you guys

1973
01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:43,360
a little bit no i did put it on that

1974
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:46,400
article just to to brush up to see

1975
01:10:50,149 --> 01:10:47,840
what you uh um

1976
01:10:52,070 --> 01:10:50,159
if you had any book put me you know some

1977
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:52,080
good questions about it or anything to

1978
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,470
hang on there 519 you might be breaking

1979
01:10:59,910 --> 01:10:58,560
up just a little bit maybe try taking

1980
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,920
your camera off see if that because i

1981
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:01,600
know that helped you the other night

1982
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,360
maybe try doing that

1983
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,719
and then go ahead and repeat the

1984
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,040
question if you get a chance

1985
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,040
i love how louis said man bear pig but

1986
01:11:12,870 --> 01:11:11,760
yeah the the chimerian um stuff that

1987
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:12,880
they're doing over in china that's

1988
01:11:16,709 --> 01:11:14,159
something they proved back in the 80s

1989
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:16,719
that they were doing with uh with cattle

1990
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,600
um

1991
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:19,600
it's it's very intriguing stuff i know

1992
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:21,440
it's a little more like you know the the

1993
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:23,199
dark side of the internet to dig into

1994
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:25,840
that but so

1995
01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:27,199
well it's not really the dark side of

1996
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:29,360
the internet that's that's who we are

1997
01:11:33,430 --> 01:11:31,360
too if we look at it from um

1998
01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:33,440
you know the standpoint of ancient

1999
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:36,320
history we are a genetic modification

2000
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:38,480
like we are a genetic creature that was

2001
01:11:43,830 --> 01:11:41,360
created by higher beings now

2002
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:43,840
i'm wondering look like you know a lot

2003
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:45,120
of these

2004
01:11:49,910 --> 01:11:47,040
things that we see in the dark in

2005
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:49,920
between like nightmares and

2006
01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:52,719
what we think as like bigfoot cryptid

2007
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:56,239
dog man anything like that hey

2008
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:58,000
um i'm not saying that they're not real

2009
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:01,040
but let's just say what if some of them

2010
01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:03,280
are the spirits

2011
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:06,719
of these hybrid creations that have been

2012
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:08,800
lost and killed and destroyed for over

2013
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,880
the last couple thousands of years as

2014
01:12:13,669 --> 01:12:12,719
you know as a collective coming back

2015
01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:13,679
they're like

2016
01:12:16,709 --> 01:12:15,199
you know we're lost we don't know what

2017
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:16,719
type of creature we are and they're

2018
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:18,800
appearing to us

2019
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:21,280
you know and we just don't know what

2020
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,800
they are i'm not saying all of them

2021
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:24,800
because you know some of them you know

2022
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:26,080
can be

2023
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:27,920
more consistent than others like bigfoot

2024
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:30,480
bigfoot is definitely real consistent we

2025
01:12:33,830 --> 01:12:31,760
know that's like

2026
01:12:36,870 --> 01:12:33,840
we know that george lucas knows about

2027
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:36,880
him more than we do sasquatch and

2028
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:39,120
chewbacca

2029
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:40,239
the mammoth yeah that's interesting

2030
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:41,440
that's what lewis is mentioning in the

2031
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:43,120
chat about the idea of bringing back the

2032
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,640
the mammoth and that's something they've

2033
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,400
been talking about for a while

2034
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:49,199
um yes you see we've had we have the dna

2035
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:52,159
replication technology already and we're

2036
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,440
doing that

2037
01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:55,199
and i believe you know it's only been

2038
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:56,800
the last five years if you really look

2039
01:13:05,030 --> 01:13:01,199
into the articles they are performing

2040
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:05,040
revivals from dna that they're finding

2041
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:07,440
like the they i believe that they just

2042
01:13:11,030 --> 01:13:08,719
recreated a

2043
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:11,040
dinosaur whatever that is i believe that

2044
01:13:14,470 --> 01:13:12,960
those dinosaurs are actually like what

2045
01:13:17,189 --> 01:13:14,480
we think as

2046
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:17,199
nephilim or fallen angels or their side

2047
01:13:21,270 --> 01:13:18,640
whatever you know you know what i mean

2048
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:21,280
those jack draconian type of beings that

2049
01:13:24,630 --> 01:13:23,760
were supposedly around back in the day

2050
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:24,640
um

2051
01:13:29,910 --> 01:13:26,320
i think that's what real dinosaurs are

2052
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:29,920
like they're actually the enemy

2053
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,239
and if you think about it like who's

2054
01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:34,800
controlling these searches of these

2055
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,600
archaeology studies and who's

2056
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:39,600
controlling the searches of the science

2057
01:13:43,030 --> 01:13:41,199
topics well it's the people with the

2058
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:43,040
money well that now we could we can go

2059
01:13:46,790 --> 01:13:44,159
ahead and think that they're the enemy

2060
01:13:49,590 --> 01:13:46,800
like the ancestors of the nephilim if

2061
01:13:51,830 --> 01:13:49,600
they're making these searches at this

2062
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:51,840
exact spot we can probably bet that that

2063
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:55,520
exact spot is their ancestors bones and

2064
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,679
origins and they're like oh we just

2065
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:59,520
found a dinosaur nah that's probably

2066
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:01,120
your ancestor that you're probably

2067
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,560
looking for and you're just calling it a

2068
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:04,640
dinosaur and you're making this whole

2069
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,800
big old deal like to make it look all

2070
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:08,480
pretty and nice and be like yeah you

2071
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:10,000
know that's just something we kind of

2072
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:11,840
don't know kind of do know

2073
01:14:15,270 --> 01:14:13,440
but no they know

2074
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:15,280
and i'm sure like because if you think

2075
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:16,159
about it

2076
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:18,560
there's two there's two sides of the

2077
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:20,800
giants of bones this is you know all has

2078
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,400
to deal with the paranormal still

2079
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:24,480
there's the giant bones and then there's

2080
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:25,199
a

2081
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,800
fish bones so there's only three type of

2082
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:37,120
beings you know and what what were the

2083
01:14:41,750 --> 01:14:39,600
other you know what were the other ones

2084
01:14:43,910 --> 01:14:41,760
probably those draconian type of

2085
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:43,920
nephilim fallen angels which

2086
01:14:47,750 --> 01:14:45,360
is probably what we still see in the

2087
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,760
paranormal as like our nightmares you

2088
01:14:51,270 --> 01:14:49,280
know these these things have been around

2089
01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:51,280
for a long time is just like these

2090
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,600
monster monsterish creations i'm not

2091
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,679
saying all of them right you know like

2092
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:57,360
fairies fairies would probably be real

2093
01:15:02,550 --> 01:15:00,400
like i so something interestingly like i

2094
01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,560
as a kid i noticed that there was fairy

2095
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:04,080
patches around here like there would be

2096
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:07,040
those those weird spots of uh mushrooms

2097
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:09,040
so circle the circle spots of mushrooms

2098
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:11,199
and like there was a lot of them around

2099
01:15:14,709 --> 01:15:12,960
here because like i lived like near a

2100
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,719
country-ish over here in the hollywoods

2101
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:16,960
of you know pacific northwest so like i

2102
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:18,960
was pretty awoke to it

2103
01:15:23,830 --> 01:15:21,280
and um yeah like i i kind of believe in

2104
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:23,840
that fairy realm is more than anything

2105
01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:25,840
too cause like i read artemis fowl as a

2106
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:27,840
kid and that kind of woke me up like

2107
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,320
real deep you know made me made me a

2108
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,600
believer what do you think of the

2109
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,360
question here by champ campbell great

2110
01:15:36,790 --> 01:15:34,880
question by the way i said really more

2111
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:36,800
of a statement but uh it says think the

2112
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:39,199
sumerians wrote about the chimerian in

2113
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:40,400
sanskrit

2114
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:42,320
uh or it might be the chimera i might

2115
01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:43,679
have pronounced it that wrong but have

2116
01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:46,480
you ever heard that before

2117
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:48,640
yeah see uh some of these ancient

2118
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,520
cultures did write about chimeras

2119
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:54,239
i'm i'm trying to re recollect which

2120
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:57,120
which story it is but i'm it's

2121
01:16:01,590 --> 01:15:58,880
it's lost on me yeah but they did talk

2122
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:01,600
about the chameras and

2123
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:04,239
um they did talk about

2124
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:06,880
like these high british creatures that

2125
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:08,450
we were battling

2126
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:09,840
[Music]

2127
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,840
you know and it's been a long story for

2128
01:16:15,830 --> 01:16:13,679
a long time

2129
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,840
now i have to ask you too uh really

2130
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:17,199
quickly i said i'd be remiss if i didn't

2131
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:18,239
because what i'm gonna do guys by the

2132
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:19,440
way we're gonna take a little break at

2133
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,600
the bottom of the hour here about 10 30

2134
01:16:24,790 --> 01:16:23,360
and i'll have some intro music there or

2135
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:24,800
something playing somebody's got to use

2136
01:16:27,990 --> 01:16:26,400
the bathroom get a cup of coffee we're

2137
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,000
just going to take a quick little break

2138
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:30,400
uh but i got to ask you 509 now besides

2139
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:32,640
your interactions that you've had and

2140
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:33,920
you've talked to me a little bit about

2141
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:36,000
with with some other entities did you

2142
01:16:39,830 --> 01:16:37,360
have anything that was directly related

2143
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:39,840
to the paranormal perhaps separate from

2144
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:48,430
let's see

2145
01:16:57,669 --> 01:16:55,510
will i i believe i did talk about that

2146
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:57,679
vampiric attack no

2147
01:17:01,669 --> 01:17:00,320
like there was just one one nightmare

2148
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:01,679
that stood out

2149
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:02,960
more than the rest like i've never

2150
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:04,960
really had nightmares like i usually

2151
01:17:10,149 --> 01:17:08,239
just have deja vush or mellow dreams but

2152
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,159
like i don't really have like any type

2153
01:17:14,709 --> 01:17:11,920
of nightmares ever

2154
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:14,719
yeah but uh there was this this tripped

2155
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:17,040
out time where like it was a dream where

2156
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:20,159
everything was so real like

2157
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:22,400
it slowed down i was in a party uh like

2158
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,239
in seattle at a large stadium of um just

2159
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:28,000
a st a festival

2160
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:30,159
and i was like all right this is cool

2161
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:31,920
and i was just sitting there and i was

2162
01:17:34,870 --> 01:17:33,600
like man this is taking forever

2163
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:34,880
and you know sure enough i was just

2164
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:36,000
going through it for a couple hours i

2165
01:17:40,709 --> 01:17:37,600
was like man this this dreams like this

2166
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:40,719
dream is kind of long what is like what

2167
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:44,239
is going on and

2168
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,280
[\h__\h]

2169
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:47,760
hey oh okay good i thought my computer

2170
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:50,960
died yeah so um

2171
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:51,920
so

2172
01:17:55,350 --> 01:17:54,400
i was like what is going on and

2173
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:55,360
it was just

2174
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:57,679
it was a short while later that

2175
01:18:00,790 --> 01:17:58,480
like

2176
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:00,800
the whole stadium started panicking

2177
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,360
every like the musics the music started

2178
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,000
glitching and everybody in the stadium

2179
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,159
started panicking and i guess if i could

2180
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:10,800
say that that was probably a sign of

2181
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:13,199
what was about to happen as a

2182
01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:15,760
as like a world because i was only about

2183
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,280
like six

2184
01:18:22,390 --> 01:18:19,600
six to eight months before the pandemic

2185
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:22,400
started um and

2186
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:23,920
so the whole everybody in the stadium

2187
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,320
started running around and i was like oh

2188
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:28,239
[\h__\h] well time to dip so i started

2189
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:30,960
dipping and i started running and i seen

2190
01:18:35,669 --> 01:18:33,040
the exit

2191
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:35,679
and i started going towards there

2192
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:37,120
and then

2193
01:18:40,229 --> 01:18:37,920
is

2194
01:18:42,310 --> 01:18:40,239
it's so weird like you know how in the

2195
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:42,320
dreams you know

2196
01:18:46,709 --> 01:18:45,280
everybody is a faceless nameless sheep

2197
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,719
like i mean not literally like you know

2198
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:48,560
i mean like you kind of just you see

2199
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,159
their bodies but you kind of don't see

2200
01:18:53,350 --> 01:18:52,480
their faces and if they if their faces

2201
01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:53,360
like

2202
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:55,120
are animated they're really just

2203
01:18:58,229 --> 01:18:57,120
untransparent like you kind of just you

2204
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:58,239
yeah i mean because you're moving you're

2205
01:19:01,830 --> 01:19:00,000
moving so fast you know sometimes so you

2206
01:19:04,310 --> 01:19:01,840
just can't even the the all the faces in

2207
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,320
the dreams are just kind of blur well

2208
01:19:07,910 --> 01:19:06,239
as i was going through the exit i

2209
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,920
noticed all the faces turned back i was

2210
01:19:12,149 --> 01:19:09,520
like what the [\h__\h]

2211
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:12,159
and i look back and dude i seen this

2212
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:17,990
bansh

2213
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,560
it's kind of it's kind of

2214
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:23,600
um

2215
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,960
trippy like scary like kind of

2216
01:19:27,990 --> 01:19:26,400
traumatizing like

2217
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,000
it's it's weird so i had seen this

2218
01:19:32,310 --> 01:19:30,800
batshit type creature like that was two

2219
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,320
times larger than

2220
01:19:37,350 --> 01:19:34,560
the humans like so it's probably like

2221
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:37,360
eight eight feet at least

2222
01:19:51,990 --> 01:19:38,880
and

2223
01:19:54,070 --> 01:19:52,000
i gotta get out of here

2224
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:54,080
and so as i was doing that i just seen

2225
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,760
it coming and i don't know if it hit me

2226
01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:57,120
or not but

2227
01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,080
dude i woke up in tears like i was like

2228
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:02,239
i had no time to cry because i already

2229
01:20:06,550 --> 01:20:04,480
woke up i was already waking up crying

2230
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:06,560
like my body was crying before my

2231
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:08,400
consciousness came back into my mind in

2232
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:11,360
reality i woke up shivering scared cold

2233
01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:13,280
i was like this

2234
01:20:21,790 --> 01:20:18,800
this was directly an attack or a sign or

2235
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:21,800
something that was definitely like

2236
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:25,040
unfriendly like you know um

2237
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,239
that i knew was was definitely

2238
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:30,239
real and

2239
01:20:33,510 --> 01:20:31,360
and

2240
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:33,520
because i i i

2241
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:35,679
i've never felt energy like that like

2242
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:38,560
i've never woke up from a dream already

2243
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,080
awake like you know my body was already

2244
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,239
moving before i before my eyes were up

2245
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:45,679
it's like

2246
01:20:48,950 --> 01:20:46,800
you know

2247
01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:48,960
it's hard it's hard to explain like

2248
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:50,960
having that you know having that type of

2249
01:20:55,270 --> 01:20:53,760
reaction um

2250
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:55,280
and i mean

2251
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:56,239
i've

2252
01:21:02,550 --> 01:21:00,239
here as a kid when i was like around

2253
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:02,560
seven at the corner of my eye it wasn't

2254
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,159
it's not nothing i could really even

2255
01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:06,000
notice though it that was the first

2256
01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,760
moment i knew like you know something

2257
01:21:11,910 --> 01:21:09,199
was here at this house or something i

2258
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,920
was really woken maybe something was

2259
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:14,560
trying to target me or i was trying to

2260
01:21:19,750 --> 01:21:17,120
elevate on some type of spiritual level

2261
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:19,760
um there's more but we're about to go to

2262
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:21,040
a break so

2263
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:23,040
we can go ahead and come back and i'll

2264
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:25,760
go ahead and um you know get something

2265
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:27,600
jotted down so i can talk about it after

2266
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,719
the break well what am i actually going

2267
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,880
to do here um 509 because i got three

2268
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:32,400
other people behind you as well i'm

2269
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:33,280
trying to give everybody about 20

2270
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:34,560
minutes or so

2271
01:21:38,149 --> 01:21:36,159
yeah so what i'm going to do okay all

2272
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:38,159
right hey no they might party let's keep

2273
01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:39,360
the party going

2274
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:41,120
yeah uh so after the break guys yeah i

2275
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:43,040
i'm down to chill

2276
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:44,320
man

2277
01:21:47,669 --> 01:21:46,480
no problem what i'll do is i'll move you

2278
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,679
backstage and you can hang out there and

2279
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:49,280
if time allows once at the end we can

2280
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:52,159
bring it back on for sure um but bim jim

2281
01:21:55,030 --> 01:21:53,679
will be coming on and guys as you know

2282
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:55,040
bim jim has been a big supporter of the

2283
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:56,320
show for a long time have been in the

2284
01:21:59,590 --> 01:21:57,440
chat so i'm excited to see what they got

2285
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:59,600
to share we also have oh man forgive me

2286
01:22:03,189 --> 01:22:01,040
if i say your name wrong

2287
01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:03,199
it i think it's jojo bone

2288
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:04,719
it could be maybe enunciated differently

2289
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:07,199
with an h if i got it wrong i apologize

2290
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:08,960
but we'll have you on around 1105 or a

2291
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:10,800
little bit sooner if we can so guys hang

2292
01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:12,239
tight anybody wants to go use the

2293
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:14,719
bathroom make a cup of coffee feel free

2294
01:22:18,709 --> 01:22:17,360
now would be the time uh really quick

2295
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:18,719
509 let everybody know where they can

2296
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:20,239
find you and then i'll move you

2297
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:22,880
backstage okay brother

2298
01:22:27,030 --> 01:22:25,600
hey man youtube and instagram at 509

2299
01:22:28,229 --> 01:22:27,040
divine pines

2300
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:28,239
i appreciate y'all you all have a

2301
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:34,390
man chad we're just rolling through them

2302
01:22:38,709 --> 01:22:35,679
tonight i thought we'd get like one

2303
01:22:40,470 --> 01:22:38,719
person or maybe two i feel bad like yeah

2304
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,480
you're doing great no this is this is

2305
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,800
great here we go guys so all right uh we

2306
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:43,920
got just a minute here so i'm gonna

2307
01:22:47,669 --> 01:22:45,280
mention one last time before we go to

2308
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:47,679
break i guess we got one minute here

2309
01:22:51,669 --> 01:22:50,560
um let's pull this up here we go

2310
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:51,679
guys

2311
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:54,719
manscaped cleared for takeoff i said i

2312
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:55,840
had to double down for him since the

2313
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,920
boys missed it last week your balls

2314
01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:59,120
thank you

2315
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:01,040
and trust me from what ben and joe have

2316
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,239
told me

2317
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:04,239
they do thank them not only did their

2318
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:06,880
balls thank them his neck thinks him his

2319
01:23:10,629 --> 01:23:09,840
wife thanks him everyone's thanking him

2320
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,639
so

2321
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,560
we're very excited to hopefully get a

2322
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:14,239
partnership set in stone with them and

2323
01:23:17,990 --> 01:23:16,239
be able to make that a a real thing

2324
01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:18,000
going forward and if not i've already

2325
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:19,840
heard the products are great so go check

2326
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:21,440
them out what do you have to lose

2327
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:23,199
all right guys let's take just a second

2328
01:23:26,550 --> 01:23:25,520
here and let me get rid of this comment

2329
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,560
i'm gonna throw up some music like i

2330
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:28,080
said go make a drink whatever you want

2331
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:30,560
use the bathroom come back in about five

2332
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,960
minutes or less and we'll be set to

2333
01:23:36,790 --> 01:23:35,280
head back out into to the

2334
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,800
the great cosmos again i'm gonna move

2335
01:23:39,669 --> 01:23:38,159
you backstage for just a second okay

2336
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,679
chad sounds good buddy

2337
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,679
all righty here we go

2338
01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:43,199
let's do this

2339
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:44,639
if i find the right buttons you guys are

2340
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:46,719
doing great tonight love this i love

2341
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:48,400
hearing all the stories

2342
01:24:27,000 --> 01:23:50,570
all right here we go

2343
01:26:29,510 --> 01:24:39,010
[Music]

2344
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:31,189
all righty guys i'm gonna hop back in

2345
01:26:34,470 --> 01:26:32,400
here for you so we're not sitting here

2346
01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:34,480
dead air for too long

2347
01:26:38,070 --> 01:26:36,560
make sure we get you all squared away

2348
01:26:40,470 --> 01:26:38,080
i'm just waiting for my buddy here chad

2349
01:26:42,870 --> 01:26:40,480
to get back uh but before he comes back

2350
01:26:44,390 --> 01:26:42,880
what i'm gonna do is uh let you guys

2351
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:44,400
know like i said you can reach it out to

2352
01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:47,199
me uh a big hang out big willy van gogh

2353
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:49,520
travel the cosmos old blue here email me

2354
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:52,159
at bigwillie ufographpodcast.com

2355
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:53,280
scroll down the links if you're

2356
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:54,639
listening in a podcast format that will

2357
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,480
all be in there for you

2358
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,560
and i just want to check really quick if

2359
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,800
uh bim jim if you are set and ready to

2360
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:02,400
go just shoot me a private message there

2361
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,760
in the backstage let me know you're good

2362
01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,040
to bring on

2363
01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:06,719
and we're going to see what's going on i

2364
01:27:10,470 --> 01:27:08,239
love this looks like chad's back i'm

2365
01:27:12,229 --> 01:27:10,480
going to bring him back in here

2366
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:12,239
hey dave scott what's shaking or at

2367
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:14,000
least big or spaced out radio i'm not

2368
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:15,040
sure who we have over there right now it

2369
01:27:17,750 --> 01:27:16,480
could be lynn could be lynn but i bet

2370
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:17,760
it's dave

2371
01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:18,639
john

2372
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:20,800
looking look at that hey five minutes

2373
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:23,040
goes by fast you know oh dude i tell you

2374
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:24,719
it flies right on by

2375
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,520
um i'm excited though i'm excited bim

2376
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,360
jim says he is ready so let's bring in

2377
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,880
bim jim now guys for those of you that

2378
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:32,400
have been here supporting the show for a

2379
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:34,400
while you know we've seen bim jim in

2380
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:36,880
here quite a few times i am i'm very

2381
01:27:41,350 --> 01:27:39,360
intrigued uh to to hear him so hopefully

2382
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:41,360
this all works out uh we want to thank

2383
01:27:45,030 --> 01:27:42,320
each and every one of you if you guys

2384
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:45,040
could once more go hit that like and

2385
01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,320
subscribe if you're not subscribed but

2386
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:48,639
hit that like button and ring the bell

2387
01:27:52,149 --> 01:27:50,239
will you do that for me will you do it

2388
01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:52,159
for big willy ring the bell so the

2389
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:54,080
cosmos here is it going

2390
01:27:56,950 --> 01:27:55,440
and we also have the michigan ufo

2391
01:27:59,510 --> 01:27:56,960
sightings and paranormal counters still

2392
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,520
in the chat love this love you you guys

2393
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:00,960
i love that channel

2394
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:04,080
heck yeah all right here we go go blue

2395
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:05,199
bim jim

2396
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:06,480
welcome to

2397
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:07,760
to the show how are we doing this

2398
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,639
evening

2399
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,960
uh i'm doing great i'm fabulous i must

2400
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,000
say

2401
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,560
a little bit older so but i've had uh a

2402
01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:16,480
lot of experiences in my life right a

2403
01:28:21,030 --> 01:28:18,560
lot of paranormal experiences and if

2404
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:21,040
people go to my youtube channel there's

2405
01:28:26,229 --> 01:28:23,199
one video i made there i put up there

2406
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:26,239
where i talk about going through portal

2407
01:28:31,669 --> 01:28:29,120
going to a portal now

2408
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,679
okay so i'm out on the west coast of

2409
01:28:35,510 --> 01:28:33,920
canada here and i got the ocean on one

2410
01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:35,520
side of me and then there's all these

2411
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,280
mountains with forest and there's all

2412
01:28:41,910 --> 01:28:39,520
kinds of logging up there and everything

2413
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,920
uh like the pacific northwest same sort

2414
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:43,280
of thingy

2415
01:28:47,270 --> 01:28:44,800
and

2416
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:47,280
so now these forests

2417
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:49,920
are very very spooky

2418
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:53,280
and uh i hang around with people who

2419
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:55,360
are new age and they're into native

2420
01:29:00,229 --> 01:28:58,000
spiritualism and all this kind of stuff

2421
01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:00,239
and we go up in the forest we sit around

2422
01:29:04,790 --> 01:29:02,080
the campfire and tell these stories and

2423
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:04,800
it's it's phenomenal i mean

2424
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:05,920
they're

2425
01:29:09,110 --> 01:29:07,440
i'm gonna get around i want to get

2426
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:09,120
around to telling you this uh kind of a

2427
01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:12,080
ghostly story here

2428
01:29:16,950 --> 01:29:14,880
i've got a few ghost stories not many

2429
01:29:18,709 --> 01:29:16,960
but uh my main

2430
01:29:20,950 --> 01:29:18,719
my main stories are about going through

2431
01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:20,960
these portals right

2432
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:22,159
and so

2433
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:23,520
so uh

2434
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:24,560
on

2435
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,520
and another friend of mine

2436
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:29,679
she organizes these meetings up in the

2437
01:29:34,709 --> 01:29:31,600
forest where she lives

2438
01:29:35,590 --> 01:29:34,719
and uh uh she's had these experiences

2439
01:29:38,390 --> 01:29:35,600
too

2440
01:29:40,870 --> 01:29:38,400
also where she has walked into

2441
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:40,880
an old native village

2442
01:29:45,350 --> 01:29:42,719
and it's all

2443
01:29:47,110 --> 01:29:45,360
operating as it did 500 years ago

2444
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:47,120
there's no metal tools or anything

2445
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:48,400
people are all

2446
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:49,600
you know

2447
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:52,400
preparing fish and fixing

2448
01:29:57,350 --> 01:29:54,800
this uh tools and stuff like that as it

2449
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,360
as it would have been 500 years ago and

2450
01:30:02,629 --> 01:29:59,520
she has walked right into these uh these

2451
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:02,639
a village like that right so okay

2452
01:30:08,629 --> 01:30:04,840
spooky forest time okay

2453
01:30:12,470 --> 01:30:10,470
if you listen to my video about going

2454
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:12,480
through the portal

2455
01:30:17,350 --> 01:30:15,280
uh it was the same portal

2456
01:30:19,189 --> 01:30:17,360
now this was uh i should have figured

2457
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:19,199
out the time this happened it would have

2458
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:20,639
been uh

2459
01:30:24,550 --> 01:30:23,760
about 25 years ago i think yeah 25 years

2460
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,560
ago

2461
01:30:28,870 --> 01:30:26,400
so um

2462
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:28,880
i drove my pickup truck out to uh port

2463
01:30:32,550 --> 01:30:30,960
melon which about

2464
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:32,560
20 miles from my home and it's a big

2465
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,960
cold mill and it's surrounded by forest

2466
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:36,719
i was out there i turned around come

2467
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,679
back

2468
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:39,360
and i saw this

2469
01:30:43,030 --> 01:30:41,440
uh uh hole

2470
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:43,040
in the green wall at the side of the

2471
01:30:47,990 --> 01:30:45,920
road like so at the side of the highway

2472
01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:48,000
there's this uh forest right this looks

2473
01:30:52,470 --> 01:30:51,040
like this green wall and i saw a hole

2474
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,480
in this green wall and i thought i

2475
01:30:55,990 --> 01:30:54,480
wonder what's in that hole right so i

2476
01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:56,000
drive in there

2477
01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:57,920
and there's this uh really rough road

2478
01:31:01,110 --> 01:30:59,840
went uphill

2479
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:01,120
it went up and up

2480
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:03,199
and my old truck just bouncing and

2481
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:05,520
rattling and banging you know and i go

2482
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:07,440
up this very rough little road very

2483
01:31:11,669 --> 01:31:09,920
narrow then i came to a normal logging

2484
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,679
road which was nice and smooth and

2485
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:13,199
carried on uphill

2486
01:31:18,390 --> 01:31:17,280
and so uh i went up that that road

2487
01:31:20,629 --> 01:31:18,400
uphill

2488
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:20,639
and uh put the gas on got in the right

2489
01:31:23,430 --> 01:31:22,080
gear you got to be in second gear

2490
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:23,440
probably to go up a hill like that

2491
01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:24,880
because you've got to keep your speed up

2492
01:31:29,510 --> 01:31:27,520
right and so i'm going around this wide

2493
01:31:33,910 --> 01:31:29,520
bend

2494
01:31:35,270 --> 01:31:33,920
up ahead of me and there's this very

2495
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:35,280
steep

2496
01:31:41,270 --> 01:31:39,600
that's crazy because the road can't be

2497
01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:41,280
that steep they would never build a road

2498
01:31:45,590 --> 01:31:43,520
that's deep but i'm looking at this

2499
01:31:47,750 --> 01:31:45,600
road in front of me and i thought i had

2500
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:47,760
no choice i had to put the pedal to the

2501
01:31:51,189 --> 01:31:49,199
middle

2502
01:31:53,910 --> 01:31:51,199
and just try to go up this hill i had no

2503
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:53,920
other choices so i i put the gas pedal

2504
01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:55,040
down hard

2505
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:57,760
and uh uh started going up this really

2506
01:32:02,229 --> 01:32:00,960
steep section hill and and and

2507
01:32:04,229 --> 01:32:02,239
it was like

2508
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:04,239
all i could see up in front of me was

2509
01:32:10,950 --> 01:32:07,600
this bright rectangle which was the sky

2510
01:32:13,510 --> 01:32:10,960
right and uh

2511
01:32:15,350 --> 01:32:13,520
i could all i could do was aim for this

2512
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:15,360
bright rectangle i couldn't see anything

2513
01:32:21,189 --> 01:32:18,480
else right so i kept the gas pedal

2514
01:32:23,110 --> 01:32:21,199
i kept the gas pedal to the floor

2515
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:23,120
and i had to do chin-ups on the steering

2516
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:25,360
wheel to pull myself up so i could see

2517
01:32:30,709 --> 01:32:27,520
and i couldn't because i was at such an

2518
01:32:32,229 --> 01:32:30,719
angle and i i couldn't see over the hood

2519
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:32,239
i couldn't see the road in front of me

2520
01:32:35,110 --> 01:32:33,600
all i could see was this bright

2521
01:32:36,870 --> 01:32:35,120
rectangle in front of me and i just

2522
01:32:39,669 --> 01:32:36,880
aimed for it and that thing that was the

2523
01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:39,679
portal right so eventually

2524
01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:41,199
after maybe uh

2525
01:32:46,470 --> 01:32:44,480
15 seconds of this very steep uphill i

2526
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:46,480
go up through this bright rectangle and

2527
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:48,560
now everything looks normal again and

2528
01:32:53,270 --> 01:32:50,560
there's like there's forest and most of

2529
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,280
it is logged as as is the case here most

2530
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:55,920
of the forces have been logged so i can

2531
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:57,679
see all around

2532
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:58,960
and it looks pretty normal and i'm

2533
01:33:04,709 --> 01:33:00,239
driving along

2534
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:04,719
uh on this logging road and i come to uh

2535
01:33:09,590 --> 01:33:07,040
a new concrete bridge over gully i go

2536
01:33:11,510 --> 01:33:09,600
over that now i see i i had seen that

2537
01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,520
that bridge once before

2538
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:13,440
so i figured okay i know where i am now

2539
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:15,040
because i've been up here once before

2540
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:16,800
through the portal before and and over

2541
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:18,000
this bridge before so i go over the

2542
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:20,480
bridge and then the road

2543
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:22,560
became very bumpy and narrow and i'm

2544
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:24,239
pumping along

2545
01:33:27,510 --> 01:33:26,080
banging back and forth you know big

2546
01:33:29,350 --> 01:33:27,520
rocks and stuff

2547
01:33:30,870 --> 01:33:29,360
and i was headed towards home but i

2548
01:33:32,709 --> 01:33:30,880
thought man

2549
01:33:34,790 --> 01:33:32,719
this this road's not not going to get me

2550
01:33:36,950 --> 01:33:34,800
home it's too narrow you know but i kept

2551
01:33:38,070 --> 01:33:36,960
going anyway i had no choice so i just

2552
01:33:39,750 --> 01:33:38,080
kept going

2553
01:33:42,070 --> 01:33:39,760
and really slow

2554
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:42,080
and i got to a point there where it was

2555
01:33:46,870 --> 01:33:44,080
all logged and i could see across this

2556
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:46,880
flat area and over there i saw a logging

2557
01:33:52,229 --> 01:33:50,320
operation and i was very relieved to see

2558
01:33:54,390 --> 01:33:52,239
some other human beings up here up in

2559
01:33:55,510 --> 01:33:54,400
that you know up at about 4 000 feet

2560
01:33:57,030 --> 01:33:55,520
elevation

2561
01:33:58,470 --> 01:33:57,040
i was very relieved to see some other

2562
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:58,480
human beings because i hadn't seen

2563
01:34:02,310 --> 01:34:00,639
anybody for a while i saw a logging

2564
01:34:04,470 --> 01:34:02,320
operation over there and i you know i

2565
01:34:05,430 --> 01:34:04,480
know what it they look like

2566
01:34:07,910 --> 01:34:05,440
and i'm

2567
01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:07,920
i slowed down on peering at this thing

2568
01:34:11,430 --> 01:34:09,679
it's a couple of hundred yards away this

2569
01:34:13,430 --> 01:34:11,440
logging operation there's a whole bunch

2570
01:34:17,110 --> 01:34:13,440
of guys there there's all these machines

2571
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:17,120
operating you know big machinery and

2572
01:34:21,910 --> 01:34:19,520
it was very strange because all the

2573
01:34:23,270 --> 01:34:21,920
machinery was black

2574
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:23,280
and

2575
01:34:26,709 --> 01:34:24,560
nowadays

2576
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:26,719
beginning about the 1960s all the

2577
01:34:31,510 --> 01:34:29,440
logging machinery was painted yellow

2578
01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:31,520
or orange but mostly yellow everything's

2579
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:33,920
painted yellow and so

2580
01:34:37,510 --> 01:34:35,600
to look over there and see these

2581
01:34:39,189 --> 01:34:37,520
machines these old black machines

2582
01:34:42,550 --> 01:34:39,199
running over there i thought that's

2583
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,560
crazy that cannot be it just can't be

2584
01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:43,920
and uh

2585
01:34:47,270 --> 01:34:44,960
so i'm looking over there and i'm i'm

2586
01:34:49,109 --> 01:34:47,280
i'm looking at these machines i can see

2587
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:49,119
there there's smoke coming out of them

2588
01:34:53,350 --> 01:34:51,679
they're working but the weirdest thing

2589
01:34:55,109 --> 01:34:53,360
was there's a whole bunch of guys

2590
01:34:57,189 --> 01:34:55,119
standing around

2591
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:57,199
watching and their backs were to me

2592
01:35:01,030 --> 01:34:59,119
they're watching the machines right

2593
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:01,040
little bunch of guys all dressed in work

2594
01:35:03,990 --> 01:35:02,800
clothes you know

2595
01:35:06,470 --> 01:35:04,000
and i'm looking at these guys i'm

2596
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:06,480
thinking that's that's i've never seen

2597
01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:07,679
that before

2598
01:35:10,709 --> 01:35:09,040
you know when you see a logging

2599
01:35:12,470 --> 01:35:10,719
operation everybody's working there's

2600
01:35:14,629 --> 01:35:12,480
nobody standing around and here's like

2601
01:35:17,430 --> 01:35:14,639
about 20 guys standing around watching

2602
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:17,440
this old machinery black machinery

2603
01:35:21,430 --> 01:35:18,560
running

2604
01:35:23,109 --> 01:35:21,440
man that's weird and then one guy

2605
01:35:24,310 --> 01:35:23,119
turned around look look

2606
01:35:26,229 --> 01:35:24,320
right in the face

2607
01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:26,239
and a big smile on his face when he saw

2608
01:35:34,470 --> 01:35:27,280
me

2609
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,480
they're all smiling you know

2610
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:36,320
and i thought man that is the weirdest

2611
01:35:41,430 --> 01:35:38,800
scene what a strange scene that is and i

2612
01:35:43,669 --> 01:35:41,440
just kept rolling real slow go long bump

2613
01:35:47,189 --> 01:35:43,679
along over these boulders and stuff

2614
01:35:50,070 --> 01:35:47,199
and and then i passed out a few of them

2615
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:50,080
and i carried on and i thought well

2616
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:52,560
i'll i guess i'll just try to drive home

2617
01:35:56,310 --> 01:35:54,560
i i was on a road that i'd never seen

2618
01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:56,320
before and i know all the roads up there

2619
01:36:00,229 --> 01:35:58,239
but this road was weird and i thought

2620
01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:00,239
well i'll just carry on

2621
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:04,960
and uh go home i suppose and and then i

2622
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:06,719
there's a period of time there where i

2623
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:09,199
don't remember how

2624
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,159
i got from that that road onto a road

2625
01:36:16,229 --> 01:36:14,560
that i had that i knew a road that's

2626
01:36:17,830 --> 01:36:16,239
near my home

2627
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:17,840
and i don't really know how that

2628
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:19,600
transition occurred and this this

2629
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,040
happened to me a number of times when i

2630
01:36:25,750 --> 01:36:23,520
went through these portals it would be a

2631
01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:25,760
kind of a transition where

2632
01:36:29,750 --> 01:36:28,320
i would i would be in one place and then

2633
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:29,760
i would be in another place that i

2634
01:36:34,709 --> 01:36:32,000
recognized and then i'll go home right

2635
01:36:37,350 --> 01:36:34,719
so anyway i went home

2636
01:36:40,950 --> 01:36:37,360
uh that day

2637
01:36:43,189 --> 01:36:40,960
and uh i got thinking about it

2638
01:36:46,149 --> 01:36:43,199
none of that could have could have

2639
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:46,159
happened it's just not possible

2640
01:36:50,709 --> 01:36:49,040
to have a black logging machinery and a

2641
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:50,719
bunch of guys stand around watching all

2642
01:36:55,270 --> 01:36:53,280
this and i figured out later what it was

2643
01:36:57,990 --> 01:36:55,280
like it was you've heard of ghost ships

2644
01:37:00,470 --> 01:36:58,000
and stuff like that right yeah so it was

2645
01:37:02,950 --> 01:37:00,480
it was a and there's ghost villages in

2646
01:37:05,510 --> 01:37:02,960
the forest up here too eh uh native

2647
01:37:06,870 --> 01:37:05,520
villages and and and ghost ships and

2648
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:06,880
you've heard of these things well that

2649
01:37:10,070 --> 01:37:08,080
was a ghost

2650
01:37:11,430 --> 01:37:10,080
logging operation

2651
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,440
is what it was

2652
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:13,199
because it could not be

2653
01:37:16,790 --> 01:37:15,119
what i saw it just couldn't be that way

2654
01:37:18,310 --> 01:37:16,800
and i saw it all very clearly and this

2655
01:37:19,109 --> 01:37:18,320
guy turned around smiled at me and

2656
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,119
everything

2657
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:21,440
and look very happy to see me

2658
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,040
so apparently

2659
01:37:27,430 --> 01:37:25,440
this is the case and i uh

2660
01:37:30,550 --> 01:37:27,440
the way i've got it figured out now

2661
01:37:32,149 --> 01:37:30,560
because well i'm 72 now and this these

2662
01:37:33,990 --> 01:37:32,159
things started happening i first went

2663
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:34,000
through a portal up there

2664
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:36,320
i was about 35 you know

2665
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:38,080
and i've i've been through the portals

2666
01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:39,280
maybe

2667
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:42,159
16 times

2668
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:43,360
and uh

2669
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:46,400
it seems that each time

2670
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:47,280
well

2671
01:37:52,390 --> 01:37:49,600
it seems that i go to different

2672
01:37:54,149 --> 01:37:52,400
parallel universes okay so there's this

2673
01:37:55,830 --> 01:37:54,159
one where there's ghosts

2674
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:55,840
and then there's other paranormal

2675
01:38:00,149 --> 01:37:58,000
universes up there i think i've been to

2676
01:38:02,070 --> 01:38:00,159
about three or four of them it was

2677
01:38:03,750 --> 01:38:02,080
another parallel universe i went to one

2678
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:03,760
time when i went through the portal i

2679
01:38:08,790 --> 01:38:07,600
went to uh a place where i met an alien

2680
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:08,800
uh

2681
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,550
i was up there i was up there camping

2682
01:38:17,350 --> 01:38:16,400
like i go through the portal and i camp

2683
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:17,360
up there

2684
01:38:23,910 --> 01:38:22,080
was eating blueberries and walking

2685
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:23,920
around in the forest and having a great

2686
01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:25,440
time

2687
01:38:28,550 --> 01:38:26,719
and

2688
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,560
i came back to my camp

2689
01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:30,639
and there was something standing at the

2690
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:34,239
edge of my camp right

2691
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:35,119
right

2692
01:38:38,629 --> 01:38:36,880
at the edge of my camp when i returned

2693
01:38:40,390 --> 01:38:38,639
to camp it was standing right there and

2694
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,400
watching but

2695
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:42,239
here's the deal that you won't believe

2696
01:38:46,149 --> 01:38:44,320
probably but it was invisible it was

2697
01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:46,159
invisible but it was

2698
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,840
it's what we call

2699
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:49,360
uh the predator

2700
01:38:53,510 --> 01:38:52,000
and many people have seen this man

2701
01:38:55,510 --> 01:38:53,520
many people have seen this thing it's

2702
01:38:57,270 --> 01:38:55,520
the predator it's invisible it's the

2703
01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:57,280
size of the sasquatch

2704
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,360
and you can see it

2705
01:39:04,070 --> 01:39:01,520
shimmering sometimes

2706
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:04,080
and but you really know it's there when

2707
01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:06,400
it runs when it runs through the forest

2708
01:39:09,750 --> 01:39:08,159
so it does two things that i'm aware of

2709
01:39:11,350 --> 01:39:09,760
it likes to watch people and likes to

2710
01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:11,360
run through the course

2711
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:13,520
and uh i've got like about 15 accounts

2712
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:15,840
of this thing and i met it and uh it's

2713
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:17,119
called the predator

2714
01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,480
and

2715
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,800
it it when it runs through the forest

2716
01:39:25,510 --> 01:39:22,239
you can see

2717
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:25,520
it displaces the forest right so all the

2718
01:39:30,709 --> 01:39:27,679
branches in the bushes and everything go

2719
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:30,719
go flying as it runs and you can see it

2720
01:39:35,669 --> 01:39:33,280
coming or going away from you right

2721
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,679
and uh that's what i met up there after

2722
01:39:38,790 --> 01:39:37,119
i went through that portal i met one of

2723
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,800
those things up there it's called the

2724
01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:40,800
predator and

2725
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:43,040
i've read probably 15 accounts of this

2726
01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:44,080
thing

2727
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:50,480
an alien

2728
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,040
uh that can visit this

2729
01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:55,840
this space time or this this universe

2730
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:56,719
okay

2731
01:40:01,350 --> 01:39:58,880
but it it comes from a nearby universe

2732
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:01,360
where it's you know it's hormones

2733
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:04,239
and i don't you know

2734
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,080
i i don't think it's

2735
01:40:11,030 --> 01:40:08,400
super intelligent like like a lot of the

2736
01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:11,040
aliens are it's just a regular sort of

2737
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:13,920
being and it's curious about us so it

2738
01:40:17,350 --> 01:40:16,000
likes to stand and watch us

2739
01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:17,360
um

2740
01:40:21,510 --> 01:40:19,600
it apparently doesn't have any psychic

2741
01:40:24,470 --> 01:40:21,520
abilities because i'm very strongly

2742
01:40:26,310 --> 01:40:24,480
psychic i can communicate with

2743
01:40:28,310 --> 01:40:26,320
people and animals and things like that

2744
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:28,320
i learned this from the native people

2745
01:40:31,590 --> 01:40:29,920
the native people know about this stuff

2746
01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,600
i learned it from them

2747
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,280
so i can talk to you know communicate

2748
01:40:36,790 --> 01:40:35,040
with animals and stuff like that and

2749
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:36,800
with other people too

2750
01:40:40,390 --> 01:40:38,400
and i've just revealed some secret

2751
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,400
knowledge to you i'm sorry sorry to any

2752
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,480
native people listening but that's all

2753
01:40:45,830 --> 01:40:43,920
secret knowledge i'm not supposed to say

2754
01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,840
that stuff but

2755
01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:47,199
that's the way it is man that's the

2756
01:40:52,629 --> 01:40:49,440
universe's i think we live in a bunch of

2757
01:40:54,709 --> 01:40:52,639
universes man right uh i had so many

2758
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:54,719
experiences up there man i mean i've had

2759
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,360
about 20 of these really wild

2760
01:41:01,270 --> 01:41:00,000
experiences that i met i met spirit

2761
01:41:03,109 --> 01:41:01,280
animals

2762
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,119
they're different from

2763
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:06,400
uh spirit animals are not cryptics

2764
01:41:09,910 --> 01:41:07,920
the spirit animals are something

2765
01:41:11,430 --> 01:41:09,920
different and they the spirit animals

2766
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:11,440
come to visit you

2767
01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:13,360
and i've had two of them come come to

2768
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,719
visit me

2769
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:17,199
and they're very friendly

2770
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:19,440
in my case one was a wolf

2771
01:41:24,790 --> 01:41:21,760
and a beautiful beautiful wolf and the

2772
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:24,800
other one was um a cougar

2773
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:26,560
very pretty cougar

2774
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,880
and the wolf was male and the cougar was

2775
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:30,000
female

2776
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:31,840
and both of them at different times came

2777
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:33,760
to visit you know and they they come

2778
01:41:37,830 --> 01:41:35,600
right up to you and they're smiling and

2779
01:41:39,669 --> 01:41:37,840
the the wolf wanted to play

2780
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:39,679
he made all these body languages like

2781
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,280
let's play let's play but he was as big

2782
01:41:45,830 --> 01:41:43,760
as a deer you know he was like you

2783
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:45,840
like the one they saw at skinwalker

2784
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:48,239
ranch just like that it was friendly and

2785
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:50,560
playful and all this stuff right

2786
01:41:54,790 --> 01:41:53,040
but i at the time i thought i don't

2787
01:41:57,030 --> 01:41:54,800
think i want to play with this wolf man

2788
01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:57,040
i don't know man i just uh

2789
01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:59,440
i'm not quite into that you know so i

2790
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:01,440
just stood still and i waited and

2791
01:42:06,790 --> 01:42:04,239
eventually ran away at an incredible

2792
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:06,800
speed and took off running and just

2793
01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:07,840
wow

2794
01:42:13,030 --> 01:42:10,000
moved really fast

2795
01:42:15,430 --> 01:42:13,040
and and the cougar that i saw another

2796
01:42:17,590 --> 01:42:15,440
spirit moi i know these are spirit

2797
01:42:18,470 --> 01:42:17,600
animals as the native people define them

2798
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:18,480
because

2799
01:42:23,350 --> 01:42:21,119
their color is weird you look at them

2800
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:23,360
they look like a normal wolf or more

2801
01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,159
normal or a normal bear

2802
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:28,480
but their color is not right

2803
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:30,880
and they are very friendly

2804
01:42:35,270 --> 01:42:32,400
they come to you

2805
01:42:37,510 --> 01:42:35,280
and they smile and friendly as can be

2806
01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:37,520
even though they're big scary animals

2807
01:42:41,430 --> 01:42:39,760
uh they're quite friendly and uh the

2808
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:41,440
cougar i met

2809
01:42:45,590 --> 01:42:43,679
was obviously female because she was

2810
01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,600
dancing in front of me you know and i i

2811
01:42:50,470 --> 01:42:47,920
was in my vehicle

2812
01:42:52,470 --> 01:42:50,480
uh rolling along very very slowly and

2813
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:52,480
this thing appeared in front of my in

2814
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:54,480
front of my vehicle right so i put on

2815
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:56,239
the brakes and i got out and walked

2816
01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:58,960
towards it because it was dancing and it

2817
01:43:03,030 --> 01:43:00,880
was um

2818
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:03,040
standing on all fours but it was dancing

2819
01:43:07,270 --> 01:43:05,440
and wiggling its body and it its tail

2820
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,280
was going up and down in this perfect

2821
01:43:11,350 --> 01:43:09,440
sine wave and it was smiling at me and

2822
01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:11,360
turning back and forth so i got in my

2823
01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:13,440
car walked right towards this cougar

2824
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:14,880
you know

2825
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:18,000
and she walked away slowly again looking

2826
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:20,000
back at me and smiling and walked away

2827
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,159
walked away and then turned and and

2828
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:25,119
vanished into the bushes at the side of

2829
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:25,840
the

2830
01:43:31,590 --> 01:43:29,199
and when she

2831
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:31,600
when she disappeared she just

2832
01:43:37,830 --> 01:43:34,480
uh she disappeared at the surface of

2833
01:43:39,669 --> 01:43:37,840
this green wall if you know what i mean

2834
01:43:41,990 --> 01:43:39,679
and there was no trail there there was

2835
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:42,000
no hole in the bushes she just kind of

2836
01:43:49,109 --> 01:43:45,199
vanished at the surface of the green

2837
01:43:51,669 --> 01:43:49,119
forks right and that was my other uh

2838
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:51,679
spirit animal and and the native people

2839
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,920
here have told me

2840
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,920
their stories of the of the spirit

2841
01:44:00,310 --> 01:43:57,840
animals also

2842
01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:00,320
and uh that's exactly what i saw there's

2843
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:02,320
no no doubt about it they have all this

2844
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,000
stuff figured out the native people they

2845
01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,400
figured this out a thousand

2846
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:09,119
so i learned from them and i learned

2847
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:11,199
oh gosh i can't there's another secret

2848
01:44:17,109 --> 01:44:13,920
knowledge i can't tell

2849
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:19,350
i can say this or not but

2850
01:44:24,870 --> 01:44:21,520
i learned how to make myself invisible

2851
01:44:27,109 --> 01:44:24,880
from uh from this one native guy

2852
01:44:28,550 --> 01:44:27,119
that's a big one that's i mean that's a

2853
01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:28,560
lot wow

2854
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:30,560
i was not expecting that i was not gonna

2855
01:44:32,830 --> 01:44:31,360
lie

2856
01:44:34,550 --> 01:44:32,840
you know oh

2857
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:34,560
yeah

2858
01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:37,360
it's amazing now okay so i learned how

2859
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:38,480
to do it

2860
01:44:42,550 --> 01:44:40,880
i tried it on a friend of mine a guy

2861
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,560
known for many years

2862
01:44:46,709 --> 01:44:44,800
i tried this on him and it freaked him

2863
01:44:50,070 --> 01:44:46,719
out so bad i didn't tell him what i was

2864
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:50,080
going to do i just

2865
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:52,400
i just wasn't there and then i appeared

2866
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:53,840
in front of him and i freaked him out so

2867
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,520
bad he won't talk to me anymore he

2868
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:57,679
doesn't believe i'm a real human he's

2869
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,840
some kind of religious person

2870
01:45:03,030 --> 01:45:01,199
and and

2871
01:45:04,870 --> 01:45:03,040
so he probably thinks i'm some sort of a

2872
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:04,880
demon or something i don't know but i

2873
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:06,960
never had any religion so anyway that

2874
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:08,639
guy

2875
01:45:12,070 --> 01:45:10,480
he yeah he won't talk to me anymore i

2876
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:12,080
see him in a grocery store i walk up to

2877
01:45:16,790 --> 01:45:14,800
him i say hey hi john how's it going man

2878
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:16,800
and uh he kind of looks at me he looks

2879
01:45:19,830 --> 01:45:18,239
away he looks at me he looks away he

2880
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:19,840
doesn't want to talk to you because he

2881
01:45:23,030 --> 01:45:20,960
thinks i'm

2882
01:45:25,270 --> 01:45:23,040
imaginary or not real or something but

2883
01:45:27,669 --> 01:45:25,280
which is cool i mean he has his beliefs

2884
01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:27,679
and i'm i'm full of people's beliefs

2885
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:29,920
whatever you got you know and then so

2886
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:31,119
this is the thing about becoming

2887
01:45:35,430 --> 01:45:32,719
invisible so

2888
01:45:36,790 --> 01:45:35,440
i told my friend

2889
01:45:39,270 --> 01:45:36,800
my friend penny

2890
01:45:40,470 --> 01:45:39,280
i explained to her very carefully step

2891
01:45:42,709 --> 01:45:40,480
by step by

2892
01:45:45,030 --> 01:45:42,719
how to make herself invisible now this

2893
01:45:46,470 --> 01:45:45,040
is a woman who is very powerfully

2894
01:45:48,629 --> 01:45:46,480
intuitive

2895
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:48,639
psychic everything you can imagine okay

2896
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:50,800
she's very powerful in that way

2897
01:45:55,590 --> 01:45:52,880
and i explained it to her how to make

2898
01:45:57,910 --> 01:45:55,600
herself invisible in great detail

2899
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:57,920
step by step okay fine so i didn't see

2900
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:00,960
her for a couple months and then one day

2901
01:46:05,910 --> 01:46:03,600
i uh went to um

2902
01:46:07,030 --> 01:46:05,920
the coffee shop near my home there and

2903
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:07,040
uh there's a bunch of people in the

2904
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,639
parking lot who i recognize they're all

2905
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:10,800
friends opinions so i go over the circle

2906
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:12,719
trends you know i stand in there listen

2907
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:13,600
to

2908
01:46:16,229 --> 01:46:15,360
and uh they were planning something or

2909
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:16,239
other i don't know what the hell they

2910
01:46:22,070 --> 01:46:19,440
were talking about but uh uh then they

2911
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:22,080
said they said okay let's go and i

2912
01:46:26,629 --> 01:46:24,159
looked around at these

2913
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:26,639
six people and i said where's penny

2914
01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:27,840
and they all turned and looked at me

2915
01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:29,440
like what are you under your friggin

2916
01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:33,360
mind she's standing in front of you

2917
01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:36,159
and i look and here's penny appeared in

2918
01:46:42,390 --> 01:46:38,560
front of me right she wasn't there and

2919
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,400
then she appeared and she was laughing

2920
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,119
and i threw my head back and laughed

2921
01:46:49,189 --> 01:46:47,520
because i knew she she played a trick on

2922
01:46:51,669 --> 01:46:49,199
me right she made herself invisible and

2923
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:51,679
then she became visible so i've seen it

2924
01:46:57,109 --> 01:46:54,960
with my own eyes i saw what john saw

2925
01:46:58,870 --> 01:46:57,119
when i made myself invisible to him now

2926
01:47:01,030 --> 01:46:58,880
i'll say that

2927
01:47:03,109 --> 01:47:01,040
it's it takes a lot of effort to do this

2928
01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:03,119
and i have never done it again i i

2929
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:04,800
dabbled in it

2930
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,159
a few times

2931
01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:08,960
i found it was real and then i i never

2932
01:47:13,990 --> 01:47:11,040
tried it again and and again this is

2933
01:47:15,669 --> 01:47:14,000
because it is a secret knowledge and

2934
01:47:16,950 --> 01:47:15,679
the reason it's the secret knowledge and

2935
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:16,960
the native belief

2936
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:18,159
is that

2937
01:47:23,270 --> 01:47:20,960
it's um it's bad you know i mean it

2938
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:23,280
could bring on bad things and i i know

2939
01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:25,119
about that i totally know what's going

2940
01:47:30,629 --> 01:47:27,360
on there man i'll tell you because uh i

2941
01:47:32,629 --> 01:47:30,639
was uh talking to this woman one day

2942
01:47:34,709 --> 01:47:32,639
and she was younger than me very very

2943
01:47:36,550 --> 01:47:34,719
pretty woman i just met her out in front

2944
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:36,560
of the mall you know i started chatting

2945
01:47:40,629 --> 01:47:38,400
with her and she worked the store there

2946
01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:40,639
and i knew her from the store very very

2947
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:42,400
beautiful very nice video we're talking

2948
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:44,639
and laughing and talking

2949
01:47:48,950 --> 01:47:46,320
and uh

2950
01:47:52,390 --> 01:47:48,960
along comes some guy

2951
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:52,400
and i i started choke

2952
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:53,520
this guy

2953
01:47:56,229 --> 01:47:55,040
was

2954
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:56,239
her husband

2955
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:58,320
native guy they're natives

2956
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:01,360
and and as this guy walked towards us i

2957
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:03,280
started to choke and i looked over at

2958
01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:05,360
him and he was giving me the evil eye

2959
01:48:10,149 --> 01:48:07,920
man because i was laughing with his wife

2960
01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:10,159
and he did not like that right

2961
01:48:13,830 --> 01:48:12,080
and so i know bloody well what happened

2962
01:48:17,590 --> 01:48:13,840
that day he was joking and mentally

2963
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:17,600
choking me right and and i i cough

2964
01:48:22,870 --> 01:48:20,080
a bit and then i was okay

2965
01:48:25,350 --> 01:48:22,880
and i i smiled at the woman you know and

2966
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,360
we all knew all three of us knew exactly

2967
01:48:31,669 --> 01:48:26,880
what happened

2968
01:48:34,149 --> 01:48:31,679
so you know i just got off the last one

2969
01:48:36,390 --> 01:48:34,159
but but yeah these are all very real but

2970
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:36,400
you see the thing is with the native

2971
01:48:40,470 --> 01:48:38,080
knowledge is uh

2972
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:40,480
it can be used for good or bad

2973
01:48:44,470 --> 01:48:42,000
and this is why

2974
01:48:45,510 --> 01:48:44,480
they keep some things secret

2975
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,520
because

2976
01:48:50,229 --> 01:48:47,760
they are bad things you know

2977
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:50,239
and uh they're bad powers they can be

2978
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:52,800
used for bad things and they uh the

2979
01:48:56,070 --> 01:48:54,800
native people have a whole explanation

2980
01:48:58,790 --> 01:48:56,080
for the universe

2981
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:58,800
you know oh i think for everything weird

2982
01:49:03,350 --> 01:49:00,800
where the salmon come from and when they

2983
01:49:04,430 --> 01:49:03,360
come back and when time began and all

2984
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:04,440
this stuff

2985
01:49:08,470 --> 01:49:07,119
holy cow paradigm

2986
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:08,480
now

2987
01:49:13,510 --> 01:49:11,280
i and i i accept that well

2988
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:13,520
i found it's true you know man i went up

2989
01:49:18,870 --> 01:49:16,080
in the forest i did some of the uh

2990
01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:18,880
some of the ordeals where you uh go up

2991
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:21,040
in the mountains and you walk and walk

2992
01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:22,080
and walk

2993
01:49:26,950 --> 01:49:23,520
and then turn around

2994
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:26,960
and no no guns i have no no gun

2995
01:49:32,470 --> 01:49:30,159
uh nothing like that just walk through

2996
01:49:33,830 --> 01:49:32,480
the forest alone and unarmed

2997
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:33,840
walk and walk and walk and cheer and

2998
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:36,000
walk back i i walked way up to a lake

2999
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:37,520
and swam in the lake and walked back

3000
01:49:40,229 --> 01:49:38,400
again

3001
01:49:42,790 --> 01:49:40,239
and

3002
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:42,800
oh yeah no gun nothing right nobody up

3003
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:46,800
there way way up in the mountains

3004
01:49:51,910 --> 01:49:49,360
well i wouldn't say i was brave no no

3005
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:51,920
i'm not brave um

3006
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:54,159
not that i'm just well i was naive

3007
01:49:59,510 --> 01:49:56,880
actually i just you know i thought that

3008
01:50:01,430 --> 01:49:59,520
was okay i wonder you know no bears can

3009
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:01,440
hurt me or anything

3010
01:50:05,189 --> 01:50:03,520
anyway that's that's another story but i

3011
01:50:07,669 --> 01:50:05,199
wouldn't say i'm brave i'm not a brave

3012
01:50:09,109 --> 01:50:07,679
guy but i have done some of these

3013
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:09,119
ordeals

3014
01:50:12,870 --> 01:50:12,000
you know and the native people

3015
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:12,880
uh

3016
01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:15,360
they invented that that idea

3017
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,960
of

3018
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:18,560
if they had a

3019
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:21,599
a teenager who was a bad kid they'd send

3020
01:50:25,589 --> 01:50:23,679
them out the force to say oh you to you

3021
01:50:28,149 --> 01:50:25,599
want to be a bad kid and steal somebody

3022
01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:28,159
else's fish or something well you go

3023
01:50:32,149 --> 01:50:30,159
live out in the forest alone for a

3024
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,159
couple of weeks we'll see

3025
01:50:36,149 --> 01:50:33,840
how when you come back what's happened

3026
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:36,159
to you in it that's the ordeal that you

3027
01:50:40,870 --> 01:50:39,679
do so i did some of these things myself

3028
01:50:42,229 --> 01:50:40,880
and i used to go up in the mountains

3029
01:50:44,390 --> 01:50:42,239
just live uh

3030
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:44,400
live up there alone i i just really

3031
01:50:49,589 --> 01:50:47,280
enjoyed it and uh i take books to read

3032
01:50:51,430 --> 01:50:49,599
and i'd take photographs and wander

3033
01:50:52,550 --> 01:50:51,440
around picking eating berries and stuff

3034
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:52,560
like that

3035
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:54,800
and just enjoying the heck out of it and

3036
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:56,639
i i would do this every summer for about

3037
01:50:59,430 --> 01:50:57,520
a month

3038
01:51:02,229 --> 01:50:59,440
up in the mountains and had a lot of

3039
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:02,239
experiences oh boy now there was uh

3040
01:51:07,510 --> 01:51:04,880
there was an earlier caller there who

3041
01:51:09,510 --> 01:51:07,520
said she was psychic or a psychic told

3042
01:51:10,629 --> 01:51:09,520
her that she was psychic

3043
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:10,639
yeah

3044
01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:12,960
i agree with that you know

3045
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:14,000
uh

3046
01:51:17,430 --> 01:51:15,679
some people don't like this idea but i

3047
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:17,440
think some people

3048
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:20,080
are psychic and some people are not and

3049
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,480
and i call it intuition

3050
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,800
you know there's many words for it but i

3051
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,639
think some people have these abilities

3052
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:28,320
and some people don't and the native

3053
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:30,400
people knew about this too right so the

3054
01:51:34,310 --> 01:51:32,320
native people they had their their

3055
01:51:36,709 --> 01:51:34,320
animal colors and these were people who

3056
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:36,719
could call animals to them

3057
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,639
and and then and they could communicate

3058
01:51:41,430 --> 01:51:40,159
with animals right

3059
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:41,440
and uh

3060
01:51:44,790 --> 01:51:42,320
uh

3061
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:44,800
i can do that i can do it i can

3062
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,199
communicate with animals mine to mine

3063
01:51:52,550 --> 01:51:49,920
and if you look this up on on youtube

3064
01:51:54,709 --> 01:51:52,560
even there's these animal healers who do

3065
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:54,719
this they heal animals by talking to

3066
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,360
them

3067
01:51:58,709 --> 01:51:57,119
and or communicating with the mind of

3068
01:52:01,189 --> 01:51:58,719
mind saying well what's your problem and

3069
01:52:02,229 --> 01:52:01,199
the animal tells them like a sore foot

3070
01:52:04,629 --> 01:52:02,239
or on

3071
01:52:06,709 --> 01:52:04,639
cold or whatever it is eh and and these

3072
01:52:09,430 --> 01:52:06,719
these animal healers who talk the

3073
01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:09,440
animals they they heal the animals they

3074
01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:11,280
prove it's true

3075
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:14,400
and i i have done that many times many

3076
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:17,199
times last time i tried this was it was

3077
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:18,560
an interesting

3078
01:52:22,229 --> 01:52:20,320
thing i was

3079
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:22,239
i went up in the mountains a little just

3080
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:24,239
a little ways and i left a gift for a

3081
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:26,880
sasquatch there and the next day i came

3082
01:52:31,109 --> 01:52:29,280
back to where i left the gift

3083
01:52:33,189 --> 01:52:31,119
and i've never seen a sasquatch i should

3084
01:52:35,270 --> 01:52:33,199
i should say that now i've i've never

3085
01:52:37,350 --> 01:52:35,280
yet seen one but my friends have seen

3086
01:52:38,870 --> 01:52:37,360
them so anyways i left a gift up there

3087
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:38,880
for the suspension and i went back up

3088
01:52:43,430 --> 01:52:41,280
the next day put my camera down

3089
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:43,440
and started running

3090
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:44,639
and um

3091
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:46,480
i was examining

3092
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:48,400
the gift and something and eaten the

3093
01:52:52,790 --> 01:52:51,119
apple something always eats the apple

3094
01:52:54,790 --> 01:52:52,800
but the other stuff was just pushed

3095
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:54,800
around right it wasn't just the apple

3096
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:56,320
was eaten so it could have been a deer

3097
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:58,400
or bear or anything really

3098
01:53:01,910 --> 01:53:00,400
and anyway so i got my camera

3099
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,920
and these

3100
01:53:05,350 --> 01:53:03,440
these ravens

3101
01:53:06,950 --> 01:53:05,360
two ravens came over and landed the tree

3102
01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:06,960
above me and started squawking and

3103
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:08,719
dropping pink on

3104
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:10,800
deliberately dropping

3105
01:53:16,149 --> 01:53:13,599
things like pieces of bark and little

3106
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:16,159
pine cones and moss and dropping this on

3107
01:53:20,229 --> 01:53:18,159
the end squawking and squashing these

3108
01:53:22,950 --> 01:53:20,239
buttons the ravens don't like people

3109
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:22,960
around here so i i sat down

3110
01:53:26,870 --> 01:53:24,560
and these things were falling on me and

3111
01:53:28,390 --> 01:53:26,880
i i started thinking at the grievance

3112
01:53:29,189 --> 01:53:28,400
rate trying to communicate with him i

3113
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:29,199
don't

3114
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,159
uh this is the sort of thing i'll try

3115
01:53:37,990 --> 01:53:34,080
and this didn't actually work this day

3116
01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:38,000
but i'll i did try to do it i asked

3117
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:40,320
i thought of a way of asking the ravens

3118
01:53:44,229 --> 01:53:43,440
have you ever seen a sasquatch right

3119
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:44,239
but

3120
01:53:48,310 --> 01:53:46,239
the way you have to do this is you have

3121
01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:48,320
to create an image in your mind

3122
01:53:52,790 --> 01:53:50,880
and then you you send the image at the

3123
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,800
animal that's how you communicate with

3124
01:53:56,390 --> 01:53:54,960
animals right so

3125
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,400
i um

3126
01:54:02,070 --> 01:53:59,440
i created an image in my mind

3127
01:54:03,030 --> 01:54:02,080
of a sasquatch standing beside a bear

3128
01:54:05,510 --> 01:54:03,040
and the

3129
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:05,520
the bear came up to just above the

3130
01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:07,199
sasquatch's knee

3131
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:09,840
showing how big this aspect is

3132
01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:12,239
so i created this image in my mind and i

3133
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:14,000
projected out in front of me in the

3134
01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:15,360
force

3135
01:54:20,629 --> 01:54:18,080
and and i beamed it at the um

3136
01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:20,639
at the at the ravens to see what they

3137
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:23,199
would do and all they did was they just

3138
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:24,159
shut up

3139
01:54:27,750 --> 01:54:26,000
and they didn't they stopped they'd been

3140
01:54:31,270 --> 01:54:27,760
squawking for five minutes straight and

3141
01:54:33,750 --> 01:54:31,280
i got some of that on the video and

3142
01:54:35,430 --> 01:54:33,760
squawking at me right above me and and

3143
01:54:37,189 --> 01:54:35,440
they just shut up that's all they did

3144
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:37,199
and they didn't i didn't get any message

3145
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:39,440
back from them but i was asking them

3146
01:54:42,470 --> 01:54:40,800
have you ever seen that have you ever

3147
01:54:43,750 --> 01:54:42,480
seen a sasquatch right

3148
01:54:44,629 --> 01:54:43,760
and i'm going to try that some more

3149
01:54:46,709 --> 01:54:44,639
because i

3150
01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:46,719
i i still do this from time to time i'll

3151
01:54:51,109 --> 01:54:48,159
go up there and now

3152
01:54:53,109 --> 01:54:51,119
uh i get along very well with the deer

3153
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:53,119
uh you get the right deer or elk i've

3154
01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:55,119
done this with elf as well

3155
01:55:00,229 --> 01:54:58,239
and with bears with red and you can you

3156
01:55:01,990 --> 01:55:00,239
can communicate with them if you know

3157
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,000
how to do it

3158
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:04,080
and i i give public talks about this

3159
01:55:08,790 --> 01:55:06,480
stuff and i i tell people step by step

3160
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:08,800
how how to talk the animals

3161
01:55:13,510 --> 01:55:11,599
and it's uh you think in pictures

3162
01:55:16,149 --> 01:55:13,520
and the first thing i think to them to

3163
01:55:17,270 --> 01:55:16,159
make a a friend of a beer

3164
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:17,280
or bear

3165
01:55:20,550 --> 01:55:18,639
okay

3166
01:55:22,629 --> 01:55:20,560
i look at them and i think you are

3167
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,639
beautiful

3168
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,800
and i create the image in my mind of the

3169
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,400
animal i'm looking at and i make it a

3170
01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:28,320
beautiful beautiful picture

3171
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,800
and i think you are beautiful and this

3172
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:33,119
works and i tell you man that if you can

3173
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:35,840
do it if you have that ability and even

3174
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,840
not all the native people had that

3175
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:39,360
ability there were certain people in the

3176
01:55:42,870 --> 01:55:41,760
tribe were were known as the animal

3177
01:55:44,310 --> 01:55:42,880
callers

3178
01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:44,320
and they could

3179
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:46,880
call animals to them with their mind and

3180
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:48,800
i've done it now with many different

3181
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:51,040
animals and i at least i've proven it to

3182
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:52,239
myself

3183
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:54,960
i can't this is see i'm actually i'm an

3184
01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:57,360
engineer and i know about science and

3185
01:55:59,589 --> 01:55:58,800
proof and all that stuff

3186
01:56:04,390 --> 01:55:59,599
um

3187
01:56:06,629 --> 01:56:04,400
i can't prove this to other people i do

3188
01:56:09,750 --> 01:56:06,639
have some evidence but but when i meet

3189
01:56:12,070 --> 01:56:09,760
people who who have these abilities we

3190
01:56:13,430 --> 01:56:12,080
we can communicate and i've even

3191
01:56:15,510 --> 01:56:13,440
i've tried this mind-to-mind

3192
01:56:16,310 --> 01:56:15,520
communication with humans as well but

3193
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:16,320
it's

3194
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,520
uh it can be dangerous and again this is

3195
01:56:22,629 --> 01:56:21,360
why it's a secret knowledge because when

3196
01:56:24,629 --> 01:56:22,639
you start

3197
01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,639
messing around with this stuff you can

3198
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:26,800
you know you can cause trouble

3199
01:56:30,149 --> 01:56:29,199
you know but i did

3200
01:56:32,709 --> 01:56:30,159
what's up

3201
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:32,719
jim i've gotta i've i i really do love

3202
01:56:35,510 --> 01:56:33,920
everything we're listening to right now

3203
01:56:37,189 --> 01:56:35,520
but i only have about two more minutes

3204
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:37,199
before i can bring the next guest on so

3205
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:38,400
i just want to know if there's anything

3206
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:40,000
that you would like to share about that

3207
01:56:44,070 --> 01:56:41,679
time frame and where people can find and

3208
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:44,080
support you uh please please let us know

3209
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,360
because i have so many more questions

3210
01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:48,239
for you especially in regards to uh we

3211
01:56:51,430 --> 01:56:49,599
didn't even get to dig into the first

3212
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:51,440
experience you had going up the hill and

3213
01:56:57,270 --> 01:56:54,719
then um the the i mean let's admit it

3214
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:57,280
that kind of mind-blowing uh

3215
01:56:59,830 --> 01:56:58,719
sentence by that you can go invisible

3216
01:57:02,390 --> 01:56:59,840
that i mean that's that's a big

3217
01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:02,400
statement that's huge

3218
01:57:07,990 --> 01:57:04,800
well many people can do these things i

3219
01:57:10,390 --> 01:57:08,000
meet people who who know what i know

3220
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:10,400
and there's a lot of them around and

3221
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:12,320
you know they'll talk to me we'll talk

3222
01:57:17,030 --> 01:57:14,880
to each other but they i can't talk to

3223
01:57:18,310 --> 01:57:17,040
regular people about this stuff

3224
01:57:21,589 --> 01:57:18,320
they don't get it

3225
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,599
hey you know i understand i can imagine

3226
01:57:24,950 --> 01:57:23,520
what where can people find or support

3227
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:24,960
you though if you want to plug anything

3228
01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:26,480
real quick please do that and then wow

3229
01:57:32,550 --> 01:57:29,360
we really appreciate your time my uh

3230
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:32,560
my my youtube page is there uh benjamin

3231
01:57:36,709 --> 01:57:34,880
if you search that bim jim you search it

3232
01:57:38,629 --> 01:57:36,719
in google searcher and you'll find me i

3233
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:38,639
got like about 80 videos on there i

3234
01:57:43,430 --> 01:57:40,800
think they're all kinds of weird stuff

3235
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,440
but but the one video i made so far i've

3236
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:45,280
only made one where i tell

3237
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:47,760
about going through the portal uh the

3238
01:57:51,830 --> 01:57:49,760
first time i went through it and how i

3239
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:51,840
knew there was something very strange up

3240
01:57:55,109 --> 01:57:53,440
there

3241
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:55,119
and when i told i told you about my

3242
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:56,960
pickup truck driving through the portal

3243
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:58,480
that was the second time i went through

3244
01:58:02,310 --> 01:57:59,920
the port

3245
01:58:03,510 --> 01:58:02,320
and on my on my youtube youtube page

3246
01:58:05,589 --> 01:58:03,520
there is

3247
01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:05,599
a video where i explained the first time

3248
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:11,430
oh perfect well i tell you what um i'm

3249
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:13,199
gonna i'm gonna take you backstage here

3250
01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:14,719
once again we thank you for coming on

3251
01:58:17,350 --> 01:58:16,480
and sharing this story i know joe and

3252
01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:17,360
ben have been wanting to talk for a

3253
01:58:20,870 --> 01:58:18,639
while so i wouldn't be surprised if joe

3254
01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:20,880
hits you up and is like yo

3255
01:58:25,189 --> 01:58:22,560
bim jim we we need to come back on it we

3256
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,199
gotta dig into this a little bit

3257
01:58:29,990 --> 01:58:28,239
so cool absolutely 100 brother well you

3258
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:30,000
enjoy your evening uh and happy early

3259
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:31,920
halloween to you if you celebrate

3260
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:33,599
thanks a lot jim

3261
01:58:39,430 --> 01:58:37,910
wow

3262
01:58:42,790 --> 01:58:39,440
that was

3263
01:58:48,629 --> 01:58:42,800
lot

3264
01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:48,639
asking chad has dropped it in the uh in

3265
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:49,440
the

3266
01:58:56,709 --> 01:58:54,560
he was ahead of me he's faster he's got

3267
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:56,719
those fast fingers he was on it here you

3268
01:59:00,070 --> 01:58:57,599
go

3269
01:59:02,149 --> 01:59:00,080
man guys this is this is like a lot more

3270
01:59:03,910 --> 01:59:02,159
than i was expecting this was i didn't

3271
01:59:05,109 --> 01:59:03,920
even there was so much i wanted to dig

3272
01:59:06,550 --> 01:59:05,119
into with this first story but then it

3273
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,560
was like to the next part the next part

3274
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:07,920
and then he was like i'm invisible and

3275
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:11,280
i'm like yeah whoa like

3276
01:59:15,830 --> 01:59:13,520
you think when a guest uh cancels you're

3277
01:59:18,709 --> 01:59:15,840
like oh man this is gonna be a slow show

3278
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:18,719
what are we going to do right and yeah

3279
01:59:22,870 --> 01:59:20,639
it's like jam-packed it's awesome heck

3280
01:59:24,149 --> 01:59:22,880
yeah well say what guys next we have uh

3281
01:59:25,910 --> 01:59:24,159
and if i'm saying your name wrong i

3282
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:25,920
apologize i hope i'm getting right but

3283
01:59:29,830 --> 01:59:28,320
i'm saying jojo bone and we're going to

3284
01:59:32,870 --> 01:59:29,840
bring him in and see what he has to

3285
01:59:34,310 --> 01:59:32,880
share with us so uh jojo first of all

3286
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:34,320
thank you for hopping on and spending

3287
01:59:37,750 --> 01:59:35,599
your evening with us and am i getting

3288
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:37,760
your name right here yeah man you really

3289
01:59:42,310 --> 01:59:39,520
are can you hear me okay

3290
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:42,320
yeah yeah you said okay i'm sorry i i'm

3291
01:59:46,390 --> 01:59:44,639
in my home studio now i've got a lot of

3292
01:59:48,470 --> 01:59:46,400
gear here but this

3293
01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:48,480
it's not recognizing my microphone right

3294
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:50,719
now so i'm going through the mic on the

3295
01:59:54,310 --> 01:59:51,760
camera

3296
01:59:55,830 --> 01:59:54,320
so let me know if it sounds bad yeah you

3297
01:59:57,109 --> 01:59:55,840
sound great yeah you're definitely

3298
01:59:59,510 --> 01:59:57,119
coming through loud and clear for sure

3299
02:00:00,390 --> 01:59:59,520
all right well that's a logitech camera

3300
02:00:02,550 --> 02:00:00,400
so

3301
02:00:03,910 --> 02:00:02,560
i get no money for that plug

3302
02:00:05,910 --> 02:00:03,920
hey that's what i'm using too they're

3303
02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:05,920
not too great with their focuses but the

3304
02:00:08,629 --> 02:00:06,719
audio

3305
02:00:10,310 --> 02:00:08,639
there we go yeah i get they got me out

3306
02:00:19,030 --> 02:00:10,320
of focus there me and me you know i

3307
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:21,109
i think it was in focus until i leaned

3308
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:22,000
up

3309
02:00:26,470 --> 02:00:25,119
yeah i didn't know it got awkward

3310
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:26,480
sometimes what i do is i'll completely

3311
02:00:29,990 --> 02:00:28,080
cover the camera with my hand and then

3312
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:30,000
bring it back out and then it'll fix

3313
02:00:35,189 --> 02:00:32,639
itself that way a little bit

3314
02:00:44,790 --> 02:00:37,589
who knows you know it didn't happen i

3315
02:00:46,950 --> 02:00:45,910
i didn't expect to have this many people

3316
02:00:48,229 --> 02:00:46,960
hopping on and for those that are still

3317
02:00:50,470 --> 02:00:48,239
waiting backstage i really appreciate

3318
02:00:51,669 --> 02:00:50,480
your patience um a lot of people hopped

3319
02:00:52,790 --> 02:00:51,679
on there tonight uh so what do you think

3320
02:00:54,070 --> 02:00:52,800
so far some of these stories coming

3321
02:00:55,910 --> 02:00:54,080
through and what did you want to share

3322
02:00:57,430 --> 02:00:55,920
with us tonight well i'm having a lot of

3323
02:01:00,149 --> 02:00:57,440
fun listening to you guys i just

3324
02:01:01,750 --> 02:01:00,159
discovered you tonight by

3325
02:01:04,070 --> 02:01:01,760
i guess by the

3326
02:01:06,229 --> 02:01:04,080
i guess it was fate or an accident or

3327
02:01:09,030 --> 02:01:06,239
something a happy accident let's call it

3328
02:01:13,030 --> 02:01:09,040
that thank you i discovered you

3329
02:01:15,910 --> 02:01:13,040
and uh i have a radio program uh here

3330
02:01:18,709 --> 02:01:15,920
and i'm in taylor texas right now

3331
02:01:21,109 --> 02:01:18,719
and that's right where ben and joe live

3332
02:01:22,950 --> 02:01:21,119
that's where this podcast is yeah yeah

3333
02:01:24,149 --> 02:01:22,960
is that right okay so

3334
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:24,159
we have some

3335
02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:26,880
people and the way i discovered you as i

3336
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:28,880
was looking up uh

3337
02:01:34,709 --> 02:01:31,360
okay so let me back up

3338
02:01:36,629 --> 02:01:34,719
my uh program radio program was on a

3339
02:01:40,070 --> 02:01:36,639
little uh internet

3340
02:01:42,149 --> 02:01:40,080
broadcast station okay in taylor texas

3341
02:01:44,070 --> 02:01:42,159
kbsr

3342
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:44,080
and uh you can look it up and find it

3343
02:01:47,109 --> 02:01:45,040
and

3344
02:01:49,109 --> 02:01:47,119
get a you know listen whatever you want

3345
02:01:53,030 --> 02:01:49,119
but

3346
02:01:56,709 --> 02:01:53,040
and i was looking up i know that

3347
02:01:57,830 --> 02:01:56,719
uh there is a show coming december 4th

3348
02:02:01,589 --> 02:01:57,840
to

3349
02:02:03,589 --> 02:02:01,599
the the okay the kbsr radio station just

3350
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:03,599
is attached to

3351
02:02:09,189 --> 02:02:06,080
the black sparrow

3352
02:02:11,589 --> 02:02:09,199
music parlor it's called so it's a live

3353
02:02:13,350 --> 02:02:11,599
a live music venue

3354
02:02:14,950 --> 02:02:13,360
and and

3355
02:02:15,830 --> 02:02:14,960
one of the things they're they're

3356
02:02:17,669 --> 02:02:15,840
bringing

3357
02:02:20,310 --> 02:02:17,679
on december 4th

3358
02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:20,320
is a ufo program

3359
02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:21,280
and

3360
02:02:25,750 --> 02:02:24,320
the the people bringing it are

3361
02:02:27,510 --> 02:02:25,760
um

3362
02:02:29,669 --> 02:02:27,520
ufo garage

3363
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:29,679
now that's how i stumbled onto you guys

3364
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:32,400
but i don't know if it's the same

3365
02:02:37,109 --> 02:02:35,119
beautiful garage is it you saying yeah

3366
02:02:38,149 --> 02:02:37,119
i'm gonna i'm almost willing to bet that

3367
02:02:40,149 --> 02:02:38,159
that's the weekend that they're doing

3368
02:02:42,229 --> 02:02:40,159
their live event there uh and i believe

3369
02:02:44,229 --> 02:02:42,239
it is going to be in taylor texas if i'm

3370
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:44,239
wrong about that boys i apologize what i

3371
02:02:48,070 --> 02:02:46,719
do is i'm in michigan so is chad um and

3372
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,080
i just do a weekend show for them on

3373
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:50,400
saturdays they normally run thursdays

3374
02:02:54,790 --> 02:02:52,960
they call it thirsty thursdays

3375
02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:54,800
but yeah ben and joe are right there in

3376
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,360
texas so i believe that is december 4th

3377
02:03:01,589 --> 02:02:59,280
and they put out an invite to a couple

3378
02:03:04,470 --> 02:03:01,599
cool i believe you'd probably have the

3379
02:03:06,390 --> 02:03:04,480
right one okay very cool so so now

3380
02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:06,400
explain to me how are they associated

3381
02:03:09,990 --> 02:03:07,280
with

3382
02:03:12,229 --> 02:03:10,000
what i'm experiencing here tonight

3383
02:03:13,589 --> 02:03:12,239
are they part of your show no they're

3384
02:03:16,070 --> 02:03:13,599
the they're actually they're the ones

3385
02:03:17,990 --> 02:03:16,080
that started it's their show uh i just i

3386
02:03:20,149 --> 02:03:18,000
run a weekend just the saturdays for

3387
02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:20,159
them so it's ben and joe's show they

3388
02:03:23,830 --> 02:03:22,000
started ufo garage podcast about two

3389
02:03:25,270 --> 02:03:23,840
years two and a half years ago

3390
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:25,280
okay it's just become an extension of

3391
02:03:28,149 --> 02:03:26,880
all these different family members that

3392
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:28,159
you know that hang out whether it be in

3393
02:03:31,990 --> 02:03:30,800
this chat um you know spaced out radio

3394
02:03:33,510 --> 02:03:32,000
is another one where a lot of us have

3395
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:33,520
met and now we've got like the

3396
02:03:37,430 --> 02:03:35,920
paranormal chop shop has popped up so

3397
02:03:38,709 --> 02:03:37,440
there's a lot of groups you know if you

3398
02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:38,719
go on i'm sure you're familiar you go on

3399
02:03:41,189 --> 02:03:40,000
youtube and you start to go through

3400
02:03:42,629 --> 02:03:41,199
these different

3401
02:03:44,070 --> 02:03:42,639
lives you'll start to run into the same

3402
02:03:45,510 --> 02:03:44,080
people you know we kind of have some of

3403
02:03:47,430 --> 02:03:45,520
the same interests

3404
02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:47,440
running into each other again

3405
02:03:52,470 --> 02:03:49,599
well you guys are doing a fabulous job

3406
02:03:55,030 --> 02:03:52,480
i've really enjoyed myself this evening

3407
02:03:56,390 --> 02:03:55,040
and so how long are you all on the air

3408
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:56,400
tonight

3409
02:04:00,149 --> 02:03:58,719
we have about another 50 minutes and

3410
02:04:01,750 --> 02:04:00,159
what we're doing is we're pregaming for

3411
02:04:03,109 --> 02:04:01,760
uh lynne wallington will be going on

3412
02:04:04,390 --> 02:04:03,119
tonight i gotta look up maybe if you get

3413
02:04:07,270 --> 02:04:04,400
a chance chad if you can check that out

3414
02:04:09,109 --> 02:04:07,280
see if she's gonna have on tonight um so

3415
02:04:11,030 --> 02:04:09,119
we just pre-game for her from nine nine

3416
02:04:13,030 --> 02:04:11,040
pm our time so 12 a.m and then that's

3417
02:04:15,270 --> 02:04:13,040
when she takes over she goes live

3418
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:15,280
for space that radio on the weekends

3419
02:04:19,750 --> 02:04:17,599
and uh but yeah we're just i had a guest

3420
02:04:21,669 --> 02:04:19,760
cancelled tonight we had a kind of a a

3421
02:04:24,229 --> 02:04:21,679
lady set up to cover ingrid cole our

3422
02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:24,239
cold and um the land between the lakes

3423
02:04:27,109 --> 02:04:25,920
and some other stuff in the mothman and

3424
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:27,119
we were going to dig into that and

3425
02:04:32,229 --> 02:04:30,400
unfortunately some love man i know love

3426
02:04:34,310 --> 02:04:32,239
man i was excited

3427
02:04:36,470 --> 02:04:34,320
but this has been great too i mean i did

3428
02:04:37,910 --> 02:04:36,480
not think i this week i did not think in

3429
02:04:39,669 --> 02:04:37,920
my lifetime i'll be honest that i'd have

3430
02:04:41,990 --> 02:04:39,679
someone come up to me and say hey

3431
02:04:43,669 --> 02:04:42,000
i can go invisible i mean and i'm not

3432
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:43,679
thinking i can't because i'm not there

3433
02:04:48,790 --> 02:04:45,920
to say he can or he can't right

3434
02:04:50,870 --> 02:04:48,800
or cannot but that was a lot i mean that

3435
02:04:52,550 --> 02:04:50,880
i wasn't expecting

3436
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:52,560
well you know

3437
02:04:56,629 --> 02:04:54,800
the way i am i love this stuff but i

3438
02:04:59,270 --> 02:04:56,639
love all the paranormal stuff you know

3439
02:05:01,910 --> 02:04:59,280
it's a lot of fun uh and i love talking

3440
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:01,920
about it sometimes

3441
02:05:07,109 --> 02:05:04,639
bear with me sometimes

3442
02:05:09,430 --> 02:05:07,119
it's kind of a reach to believe some of

3443
02:05:12,470 --> 02:05:09,440
the stories but

3444
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:12,480
i do always respect everybody and i do

3445
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:14,320
enjoy hearing the stories and talking

3446
02:05:18,390 --> 02:05:16,480
about the stories and kicking it around

3447
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:18,400
you know what i mean

3448
02:05:23,589 --> 02:05:21,280
i love it i really love it well my radio

3449
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:23,599
show is pretty it's kind of evolving

3450
02:05:27,109 --> 02:05:26,159
right now i've done nine episodes so far

3451
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:27,119
they're on

3452
02:05:32,390 --> 02:05:29,520
i do a show every week

3453
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:32,400
and it's the jojo bone show on kbsr so

3454
02:05:36,550 --> 02:05:34,960
if anybody wants to look that up uh i'm

3455
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:36,560
on um

3456
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:39,840
i'm on let's see monday nights at from

3457
02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:41,360
10 to midnight

3458
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:43,119
there you go and then there's a repeat

3459
02:05:50,550 --> 02:05:46,800
of my show on saturdays from 11 00

3460
02:05:53,910 --> 02:05:50,560
p.m to 1 a.m in the morning

3461
02:05:56,310 --> 02:05:53,920
and um my show the format of my show i'm

3462
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:56,320
evolving it but what i want to get to

3463
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,760
is pretty much mostly conversation

3464
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:02,320
uh i like talking about paranormal

3465
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:04,880
things i love

3466
02:06:07,990 --> 02:06:06,480
let me just say stories of high

3467
02:06:10,069 --> 02:06:08,000
strangeness

3468
02:06:11,430 --> 02:06:10,079
you know anything that's

3469
02:06:13,510 --> 02:06:11,440
weird you know

3470
02:06:15,589 --> 02:06:13,520
i love talking about that i interview

3471
02:06:19,270 --> 02:06:15,599
bands that appear

3472
02:06:21,830 --> 02:06:19,280
at the uh at the black sparrow

3473
02:06:25,030 --> 02:06:21,840
and i do that and uh and then some

3474
02:06:26,470 --> 02:06:25,040
bumper music so i'm slowly switching

3475
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:26,480
over

3476
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:29,599
to just a few bumper music kind of tunes

3477
02:06:33,990 --> 02:06:32,400
in between my talk sections you know

3478
02:06:35,430 --> 02:06:34,000
where i'm talking about you know i'm

3479
02:06:37,910 --> 02:06:35,440
talking to people about

3480
02:06:39,830 --> 02:06:37,920
you know high strangeness or i'm talking

3481
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:39,840
to bands and sometimes they end up the

3482
02:06:45,750 --> 02:06:42,239
same conversation you know everybody

3483
02:06:48,310 --> 02:06:45,760
loves talking about this stuff

3484
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:48,320
absolutely everybody has a story i mean

3485
02:06:52,629 --> 02:06:50,560
i can share a story or two that i have

3486
02:06:56,069 --> 02:06:52,639
if you have time 100 percent yeah we got

3487
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,079
you so 11 25 years so okay

3488
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:58,560
um

3489
02:07:05,109 --> 02:07:01,920
this story didn't happen to me

3490
02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:05,119
it happened to my mother and father

3491
02:07:10,830 --> 02:07:08,000
and they conveyed it to me it happened

3492
02:07:13,750 --> 02:07:10,840
when i was in college so i was away at

3493
02:07:15,669 --> 02:07:13,760
school and my parents were kind of going

3494
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,679
through

3495
02:07:19,669 --> 02:07:17,920
kind of a hard time and they're you know

3496
02:07:21,109 --> 02:07:19,679
through some bumps in their life at that

3497
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:21,119
time

3498
02:07:24,069 --> 02:07:22,960
and uh

3499
02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:24,079
so

3500
02:07:29,270 --> 02:07:27,760
they went out one day and took a little

3501
02:07:30,629 --> 02:07:29,280
car ride you know to kind of relieve

3502
02:07:31,910 --> 02:07:30,639
stress kind of take a little country

3503
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:31,920
drive

3504
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:32,960
and

3505
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:42,560
he didn't get confused easily right

3506
02:07:45,669 --> 02:07:44,239
especially

3507
02:07:48,069 --> 02:07:45,679
geographically which is where i'm going

3508
02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:48,079
to get to on this story

3509
02:07:52,390 --> 02:07:50,639
and so he they kind of turned out of

3510
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:52,400
their driveway went down the country

3511
02:07:55,910 --> 02:07:53,360
road

3512
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:55,920
turned right very simple but down a

3513
02:08:00,950 --> 02:07:57,920
little further and they saw this

3514
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:00,960
beautiful little park

3515
02:08:06,069 --> 02:08:03,679
along the side of the road

3516
02:08:06,950 --> 02:08:06,079
and they described it as an ernie pyle

3517
02:08:09,350 --> 02:08:06,960
park

3518
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:09,360
now i don't really know what an ernie

3519
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:12,000
pyle park is do you guys

3520
02:08:15,589 --> 02:08:14,480
no i could take a guess but but but i

3521
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:15,599
think it's

3522
02:08:18,709 --> 02:08:17,520
you know they were you know they they

3523
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:18,719
were

3524
02:08:23,589 --> 02:08:20,800
children during the uh

3525
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,599
the depression and i think ernie pyle

3526
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:26,320
was one of those government program kind

3527
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:27,920
of things you know to put men to work

3528
02:08:30,310 --> 02:08:29,520
and to work on infrastructure and so

3529
02:08:32,470 --> 02:08:30,320
forth

3530
02:08:34,870 --> 02:08:32,480
and they and that was just one little

3531
02:08:37,669 --> 02:08:34,880
thing that they did to make these things

3532
02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,679
apparently called ernie pyle parks

3533
02:08:41,589 --> 02:08:39,520
and they were just sweet little parks

3534
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:41,599
deal with a pavilion and maybe a swing

3535
02:08:46,790 --> 02:08:43,440
set and you know

3536
02:08:48,310 --> 02:08:46,800
just to beautify the communities

3537
02:08:50,709 --> 02:08:48,320
and

3538
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:50,719
this one though my parents lived out in

3539
02:08:54,629 --> 02:08:52,239
the country this time

3540
02:08:57,030 --> 02:08:54,639
in uh in indiana

3541
02:08:58,550 --> 02:08:57,040
in lots of corn fields

3542
02:09:01,189 --> 02:08:58,560
and

3543
02:09:03,750 --> 02:09:01,199
this ernie pile park was cut out along

3544
02:09:06,390 --> 02:09:03,760
the side of the road kind of a cornfield

3545
02:09:08,870 --> 02:09:06,400
you know it's like maybe

3546
02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:08,880
a half an acre to an acre you know very

3547
02:09:13,750 --> 02:09:10,880
small park

3548
02:09:15,669 --> 02:09:13,760
but in their eyes it was extremely

3549
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:15,679
beautiful

3550
02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:18,560
and it made them feel good

3551
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:20,079
you know it took the pressure off

3552
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:22,320
something about it

3553
02:09:25,830 --> 02:09:24,320
was magical

3554
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:25,840
and

3555
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:27,360
so they said you know what we need we

3556
02:09:30,709 --> 02:09:29,520
need to do we need to come back next

3557
02:09:32,790 --> 02:09:30,719
weekend

3558
02:09:34,709 --> 02:09:32,800
ride our bikes they have these bikes

3559
02:09:36,790 --> 02:09:34,719
that they never rode you know

3560
02:09:38,069 --> 02:09:36,800
they say there is an excuse to ride our

3561
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:38,079
bikes

3562
02:09:43,430 --> 02:09:41,119
so we'll make a nice picnic lunch

3563
02:09:46,470 --> 02:09:43,440
and we'll ride down to the ernie pal

3564
02:09:49,270 --> 02:09:46,480
park have this beautiful experience

3565
02:09:51,430 --> 02:09:49,280
right because it made them feel good

3566
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:51,440
well a week goes by and they're all

3567
02:09:56,069 --> 02:09:53,760
excited and they get their picnic lunch

3568
02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:56,079
all made and they put it on their bikes

3569
02:09:59,669 --> 02:09:58,000
they go ride and they go down the road

3570
02:10:01,990 --> 02:09:59,679
and then they turn right and they go

3571
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:02,000
down the road

3572
02:10:06,390 --> 02:10:04,719
the park is not there

3573
02:10:08,149 --> 02:10:06,400
okay so

3574
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:08,159
this is weird

3575
02:10:14,310 --> 02:10:11,679
okay my dad does not get lost

3576
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:14,320
and this was so simple it was just one

3577
02:10:18,390 --> 02:10:16,320
turn from their house right it was down

3578
02:10:20,790 --> 02:10:18,400
the country road turn right

3579
02:10:22,149 --> 02:10:20,800
down another country road this park that

3580
02:10:24,149 --> 02:10:22,159
made them feel

3581
02:10:27,990 --> 02:10:24,159
joyful

3582
02:10:32,310 --> 02:10:30,069
course i was away at college

3583
02:10:34,229 --> 02:10:32,320
and by the way this was my first

3584
02:10:36,069 --> 02:10:34,239
semester of college

3585
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,079
so you know

3586
02:10:43,189 --> 02:10:38,639
i came back

3587
02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:43,199
after like one semester of psychology

3588
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:45,199
and of course i had all the answers

3589
02:10:51,990 --> 02:10:49,280
because i was 18 19

3590
02:10:52,950 --> 02:10:52,000
and i knew everything right

3591
02:10:56,069 --> 02:10:52,960
so

3592
02:10:58,310 --> 02:10:56,079
i said mom dad let me explain to you

3593
02:11:00,790 --> 02:10:58,320
i'll explain carefully and slowly so you

3594
02:11:02,870 --> 02:11:00,800
understand let me explain to you what

3595
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:02,880
was happening here

3596
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:06,320
you know and i went into a bunch of bs

3597
02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:08,480
about you know

3598
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:10,960
about uh shared hallucinate

3599
02:11:15,430 --> 02:11:13,599
hallucinations and things you know i

3600
02:11:17,270 --> 02:11:15,440
just grabbed and studied everything i

3601
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:17,280
had learned in my first semester in

3602
02:11:22,069 --> 02:11:19,520
psychology

3603
02:11:24,310 --> 02:11:22,079
and of course i was an expert in it

3604
02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:24,320
pardon my language pissed my dad off to

3605
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:25,599
know it

3606
02:11:30,550 --> 02:11:27,679
because

3607
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:30,560
you know he didn't need an 18 year old

3608
02:11:35,189 --> 02:11:32,960
telling him what he didn't see

3609
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:35,199
right this was simply a shared

3610
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:38,800
hallucinous evolutionization dad

3611
02:11:42,390 --> 02:11:40,960
okay that's all it was

3612
02:11:43,669 --> 02:11:42,400
but uh

3613
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:43,679
it was

3614
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:46,639
quite different to them and what i've

3615
02:11:50,830 --> 02:11:48,960
what's now that i'm much older

3616
02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:50,840
it's been my experience

3617
02:11:55,669 --> 02:11:53,280
that that

3618
02:11:56,790 --> 02:11:55,679
these types of things are very real to

3619
02:11:59,109 --> 02:11:56,800
people

3620
02:12:00,790 --> 02:11:59,119
and who am i to say it did or did not

3621
02:12:04,830 --> 02:12:00,800
happen

3622
02:12:07,990 --> 02:12:04,840
i don't know what

3623
02:12:11,350 --> 02:12:08,000
happened who knows what happened

3624
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:11,360
but it was real to them it was it was

3625
02:12:15,350 --> 02:12:13,360
vividly real to them

3626
02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:15,360
and it made them feel this is the

3627
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:17,599
important thing i think it made them

3628
02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:21,040
feel good and an otherwise bad time in

3629
02:12:25,589 --> 02:12:22,800
their lives

3630
02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:25,599
you know it was an escape

3631
02:12:29,669 --> 02:12:27,360
and it was also

3632
02:12:32,709 --> 02:12:29,679
very near

3633
02:12:34,950 --> 02:12:32,719
a an air force base

3634
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:34,960
that occasionally

3635
02:12:38,870 --> 02:12:37,199
there have been ufo sightings like we

3636
02:12:41,430 --> 02:12:38,880
all know to happen around air force

3637
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:41,440
bases very frequently yeah right

3638
02:12:45,350 --> 02:12:42,480
and so

3639
02:12:48,149 --> 02:12:45,360
there was paranormal things that

3640
02:12:50,470 --> 02:12:48,159
happened in the area

3641
02:12:52,310 --> 02:12:50,480
but um

3642
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:52,320
you know nothing specific that i can

3643
02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:56,159
recall other than my parents story

3644
02:13:00,709 --> 02:12:58,079
and i'll never forget that

3645
02:13:02,390 --> 02:13:00,719
and i don't know if i ever apologized to

3646
02:13:05,430 --> 02:13:02,400
my parents

3647
02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:05,440
for my arrogance

3648
02:13:09,189 --> 02:13:06,880
but um

3649
02:13:10,550 --> 02:13:09,199
you know when you're 19 years old or 18

3650
02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:10,560
or whatever i was

3651
02:13:14,790 --> 02:13:12,560
it's hard it's hard to hold it back you

3652
02:13:17,669 --> 02:13:14,800
know you're learning all this stuff and

3653
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:17,679
you know you just have all the answers

3654
02:13:21,669 --> 02:13:19,119
and um

3655
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:21,679
so it was pretty crazy a pretty crazy

3656
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:22,639
thing

3657
02:13:26,310 --> 02:13:24,719
and

3658
02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:26,320
i've never had anything like that happen

3659
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:29,679
to me personally but i would love it

3660
02:13:35,990 --> 02:13:33,440
i would right welcome it you know

3661
02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:36,000
it would be crazy um

3662
02:13:42,069 --> 02:13:39,199
and i did have a ufo sighting though

3663
02:13:44,149 --> 02:13:42,079
all due to oh boy about

3664
02:13:46,950 --> 02:13:44,159
now about

3665
02:13:49,830 --> 02:13:46,960
seven or eight months ago now maybe nine

3666
02:13:52,069 --> 02:13:49,840
oh wow pretty recent yeah and i was

3667
02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:52,079
heading home from

3668
02:13:54,870 --> 02:13:53,040
uh

3669
02:13:56,629 --> 02:13:54,880
a little town next to taylor called

3670
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,639
elgin

3671
02:14:01,270 --> 02:13:58,800
and you know it was about 2 a.m in the

3672
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,280
morning i was visiting friends

3673
02:14:06,950 --> 02:14:03,520
and

3674
02:14:08,229 --> 02:14:06,960
what happened was i'm driving home

3675
02:14:10,709 --> 02:14:08,239
in up

3676
02:14:13,990 --> 02:14:10,719
in front of me

3677
02:14:16,310 --> 02:14:14,000
going very slowly

3678
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:16,320
is a triangular

3679
02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:20,320
arrangement of three red lights

3680
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,119
right making no noise

3681
02:14:27,109 --> 02:14:25,520
appear to be maybe

3682
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:27,119
oh

3683
02:14:31,589 --> 02:14:29,280
a couple of thousand feet in the air but

3684
02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:31,599
hard to judge the distance because

3685
02:14:34,709 --> 02:14:33,119
really all i could see were the three

3686
02:14:35,589 --> 02:14:34,719
red lights

3687
02:14:39,030 --> 02:14:35,599
and

3688
02:14:41,350 --> 02:14:39,040
now i'm not an expert in in aviation but

3689
02:14:43,189 --> 02:14:41,360
it's my understanding

3690
02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:43,199
that

3691
02:14:47,589 --> 02:14:45,440
a triangular pattern of three red lights

3692
02:14:48,950 --> 02:14:47,599
is very unusual because usually they're

3693
02:14:51,589 --> 02:14:48,960
red and blue

3694
02:14:53,669 --> 02:14:51,599
or something so if it's an aircraft so

3695
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:53,679
you know which direction the aircraft is

3696
02:14:57,910 --> 02:14:55,840
traveling

3697
02:15:00,870 --> 02:14:57,920
and

3698
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:00,880
i recall as i drove it was approaching

3699
02:15:05,990 --> 02:15:03,760
me and i drove underneath it

3700
02:15:08,709 --> 02:15:06,000
and i slowed down

3701
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:08,719
and it made absolutely no sound it went

3702
02:15:12,950 --> 02:15:12,000
right over the top of me

3703
02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,960
and

3704
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:14,400
slowly

3705
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:16,960
went over me and disappeared

3706
02:15:22,390 --> 02:15:18,800
and i thought wow

3707
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:22,400
this is my first ufo experience this

3708
02:15:25,350 --> 02:15:24,239
makes no sense

3709
02:15:28,870 --> 02:15:25,360
you know

3710
02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:28,880
that that made no sound whatsoever zero

3711
02:15:33,990 --> 02:15:30,079
sound

3712
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:34,000
and these lights were arranged perfectly

3713
02:15:38,709 --> 02:15:36,880
in a you know equilateral triangle and

3714
02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:38,719
did not vary they were like locked

3715
02:15:43,109 --> 02:15:40,239
together

3716
02:15:45,270 --> 02:15:43,119
and drifting over me very slowly

3717
02:15:48,629 --> 02:15:45,280
and i remember thinking do i want to

3718
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:51,669
i don't know i was i was thinking

3719
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:52,560
oh

3720
02:15:56,629 --> 02:15:54,800
i hope they bring me back

3721
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:56,639
what's really going to happen here i

3722
02:16:01,350 --> 02:15:59,119
don't i don't need i i don't need a a

3723
02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:01,360
physical examination tonight yeah you

3724
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,800
don't need to wait you don't want to

3725
02:16:06,870 --> 02:16:04,480
wake up on the beach wearing a bikini or

3726
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:06,880
something right yeah i don't want any of

3727
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:07,290
that

3728
02:16:10,550 --> 02:16:08,880
[Laughter]

3729
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:10,560
so we put them back in the wrong spot

3730
02:16:14,229 --> 02:16:12,239
yeah we put them back in the wrong spot

3731
02:16:16,149 --> 02:16:14,239
you know and uh

3732
02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:16,159
yeah and uh you know it's just crazy

3733
02:16:21,030 --> 02:16:19,280
things like that happen to people but um

3734
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:21,040
while i was asking a question here i

3735
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:22,320
think is pretty interesting too and they

3736
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:23,920
were saying you know how big was it and

3737
02:16:26,550 --> 02:16:25,119
how high if you had to you know

3738
02:16:28,950 --> 02:16:26,560
guesstimate from your

3739
02:16:30,149 --> 02:16:28,960
experience well i'd say the altitude was

3740
02:16:33,830 --> 02:16:30,159
probably

3741
02:16:36,309 --> 02:16:33,840
maybe a thousand feet okay

3742
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:36,319
difficult to say because it was night

3743
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:38,160
but i'd say about a thousand feet and

3744
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:39,200
maybe

3745
02:16:44,469 --> 02:16:42,479
uh the size would be

3746
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:44,479
maybe

3747
02:16:50,709 --> 02:16:46,479
i don't know

3748
02:16:53,030 --> 02:16:50,719
50 to 100 yards on a side

3749
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:53,040
something like that

3750
02:16:58,150 --> 02:16:57,040
and um but extremely

3751
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:58,160
strange

3752
02:17:03,830 --> 02:17:00,960
you know absolutely no sound

3753
02:17:05,669 --> 02:17:03,840
whatsoever it floated right over the top

3754
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:05,679
of me

3755
02:17:14,870 --> 02:17:12,150
so maybe they're listening in right now

3756
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:14,880
hey guys you always say that's what i

3757
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:16,160
tell people so we never know where this

3758
02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,559
is going who knows how far this goes out

3759
02:17:22,230 --> 02:17:20,559
yeah we really don't know who will be

3760
02:17:23,349 --> 02:17:22,240
listening and what time you'll be

3761
02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:23,359
listening and there could be somebody in

3762
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:24,880
the future one day who's listening back

3763
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,679
to

3764
02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:27,599
old-timey podcasts you know that people

3765
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:29,760
used to get on and do and this might be

3766
02:17:34,389 --> 02:17:31,439
out there we don't know

3767
02:17:36,309 --> 02:17:34,399
um i tell you what uh jj bone i agree

3768
02:17:37,910 --> 02:17:36,319
that you i feel like ben and joe would

3769
02:17:39,349 --> 02:17:37,920
love to have you on and do a full

3770
02:17:40,790 --> 02:17:39,359
interview with you

3771
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:40,800
as i felt with everybody tonight i

3772
02:17:43,669 --> 02:17:42,479
apologize for having such short time

3773
02:17:45,750 --> 02:17:43,679
with everybody

3774
02:17:46,870 --> 02:17:45,760
but also too right here if you look up

3775
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:46,880
this one i'm gonna pull them up on here

3776
02:17:51,110 --> 02:17:49,200
this is wayne's uh channel him and his

3777
02:17:52,549 --> 02:17:51,120
wife have michelle have a podcast in

3778
02:17:54,469 --> 02:17:52,559
their michigan as well the michigan ufo

3779
02:17:55,910 --> 02:17:54,479
sightings and paranormal encounters

3780
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:55,920
if you want to get in touch with them

3781
02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:57,840
they had quite an encounter with a a

3782
02:18:01,110 --> 02:17:59,439
triangle crafted as well a black

3783
02:18:02,870 --> 02:18:01,120
triangle a little bit different but

3784
02:18:05,270 --> 02:18:02,880
um these black triangles or these

3785
02:18:07,990 --> 02:18:05,280
triangle shapes are not something that

3786
02:18:09,750 --> 02:18:08,000
seem to be fading away at at all um so

3787
02:18:11,110 --> 02:18:09,760
maybe if you type that in or you look

3788
02:18:12,070 --> 02:18:11,120
that one up a little bit or click on

3789
02:18:13,589 --> 02:18:12,080
their name

3790
02:18:15,190 --> 02:18:13,599
in touch with them and then just one

3791
02:18:16,870 --> 02:18:15,200
last time uh would you mind plugging

3792
02:18:18,309 --> 02:18:16,880
where we can find you and let people

3793
02:18:22,870 --> 02:18:18,319
know about that

3794
02:18:24,870 --> 02:18:22,880
yes if you look up um

3795
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:24,880
black sparrow

3796
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,800
music parlor

3797
02:18:30,309 --> 02:18:28,080
dot com

3798
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:30,319
that's four words but

3799
02:18:35,589 --> 02:18:32,399
the internet address is no spaces i'm

3800
02:18:37,750 --> 02:18:35,599
sorry black sparrow music parlor dot com

3801
02:18:40,230 --> 02:18:37,760
slash radio

3802
02:18:41,990 --> 02:18:40,240
you'll see it'll go to the page for the

3803
02:18:42,950 --> 02:18:42,000
radio station and you can click there

3804
02:18:45,429 --> 02:18:42,960
and

3805
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:45,439
start listening to the broadcast

3806
02:18:52,389 --> 02:18:49,120
and i'm my show is on

3807
02:18:54,790 --> 02:18:52,399
monday nights at 10 pm central time

3808
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:54,800
for two hours and then the repeat of

3809
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:57,120
that broadcast

3810
02:19:00,950 --> 02:18:58,000
is

3811
02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:00,960
uh on saturdays the following saturdays

3812
02:19:06,389 --> 02:19:05,200
from 11 p.m to 1 a.m in the morning

3813
02:19:08,870 --> 02:19:06,399
very nice

3814
02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:08,880
i'll tell you what uh this was a real pl

3815
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:09,840
i'm sorry go ahead chad did you have

3816
02:19:13,910 --> 02:19:10,960
some i was just gonna say i'm putting

3817
02:19:15,990 --> 02:19:13,920
that in the chat right now i i found it

3818
02:19:18,230 --> 02:19:16,000
you found it yep

3819
02:19:20,150 --> 02:19:18,240
pretty cool website looks pretty sweet

3820
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:20,160
heck yeah well brother i want to thank

3821
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,160
you for hopping on here and uh and

3822
02:19:26,150 --> 02:19:24,639
sharing that story that i love stories

3823
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:26,160
where the time just kind of disappears

3824
02:19:29,190 --> 02:19:28,000
but i'm going to move you back uh stage

3825
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:29,200
feel free you can hang out there or you

3826
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,800
can hop off however you want to do that

3827
02:19:33,750 --> 02:19:32,559
and we really appreciate you hopping on

3828
02:19:35,349 --> 02:19:33,760
here and sharing those two stories with

3829
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:35,359
us brother yeah thank you all right all

3830
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:38,000
right now do i refer to you as big willy

3831
02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:40,800
you it's your thing whatever

3832
02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:42,000
yes sir

3833
02:19:46,230 --> 02:19:44,319
and chad smith which is the great jazz

3834
02:19:50,150 --> 02:19:46,240
drummer or or this is not the drama

3835
02:19:52,469 --> 02:19:50,160
drummer for uh uh uh the chili peppers

3836
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:52,479
yes thank you yeah chili peppers yeah

3837
02:19:56,230 --> 02:19:54,000
unfortunately i don't have the same bank

3838
02:19:58,469 --> 02:19:56,240
account but

3839
02:20:01,349 --> 02:19:58,479
not the same name i got the name that's

3840
02:20:03,349 --> 02:20:01,359
not the cash that's okay man that's

3841
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:03,359
that's okay it's hard to be humble i

3842
02:20:06,309 --> 02:20:05,120
know

3843
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:06,319
that's right i'm trying all right

3844
02:20:09,830 --> 02:20:07,680
brother you have a going appreciate all

3845
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:09,840
right thank you guys

3846
02:20:16,389 --> 02:20:14,070
man

3847
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:16,399
dude dude that's awesome

3848
02:20:19,830 --> 02:20:18,720
he just happened to find us i know right

3849
02:20:21,030 --> 02:20:19,840
that there's been two other ones i've

3850
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:21,040
seen that just came in here out of the

3851
02:20:24,550 --> 02:20:22,800
blue kind of randomly tonight too that's

3852
02:20:26,150 --> 02:20:24,560
awesome so we appreciate everybody who's

3853
02:20:28,950 --> 02:20:26,160
jumped in here and like chad said he's

3854
02:20:30,389 --> 02:20:28,960
got the uh the website chat tagged there

3855
02:20:31,510 --> 02:20:30,399
in the comment section so if you guys

3856
02:20:33,750 --> 02:20:31,520
want to click on that check him out

3857
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:33,760
later that would be awesome

3858
02:20:38,389 --> 02:20:35,760
let's see uh

3859
02:20:39,990 --> 02:20:38,399
up next really quick too can i ask uh

3860
02:20:41,510 --> 02:20:40,000
did you find out might be who lynne

3861
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:41,520
wallington has on tonight or they're not

3862
02:20:46,309 --> 02:20:44,000
putting yeah lynn wallington tonight she

3863
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:46,319
is covering uap regression with lori

3864
02:20:49,590 --> 02:20:47,600
mcdonald

3865
02:20:51,990 --> 02:20:49,600
heck yeah you guys make sure you check

3866
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:52,000
them out obviously lynn both dave and

3867
02:20:55,990 --> 02:20:53,760
honestly i don't know there's they're

3868
02:20:58,389 --> 02:20:56,000
both good man they're both really good

3869
02:20:59,510 --> 02:20:58,399
you know what i mean solid

3870
02:21:01,190 --> 02:20:59,520
i don't think dave would take any

3871
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:01,200
offense to me saying that lynn is is

3872
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:03,760
just as solid as him uh maybe a little

3873
02:21:06,790 --> 02:21:05,120
bit different approach and what she does

3874
02:21:08,870 --> 02:21:06,800
and i think we all love it but just as

3875
02:21:10,469 --> 02:21:08,880
solid absolutely so it looks like we

3876
02:21:12,230 --> 02:21:10,479
have um

3877
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:12,240
joshua casey which he did if you guys

3878
02:21:16,230 --> 02:21:13,520
haven't checked his interview on he just

3879
02:21:17,750 --> 02:21:16,240
had an interview uh about two weeks ago

3880
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:17,760
with with ben and joan he came out and

3881
02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:19,600
shared a lot of his experiences so we're

3882
02:21:22,870 --> 02:21:20,880
gonna bring him on here for a couple

3883
02:21:24,790 --> 02:21:22,880
minutes and and and hang out like i said

3884
02:21:26,710 --> 02:21:24,800
i have put it oh man i just realized

3885
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:26,720
something guys if i slide down there's

3886
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:29,040
more people in here we have more people

3887
02:21:32,389 --> 02:21:30,800
in the chat so i might try to shorten

3888
02:21:34,550 --> 02:21:32,399
them from 20 maybe we can let's see if

3889
02:21:36,550 --> 02:21:34,560
we can pump out like the next three

3890
02:21:38,550 --> 02:21:36,560
we'll give you guys like 10 minutes each

3891
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:38,560
five eight to ten minutes if we can

3892
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:40,000
and uh you guys coming to share your

3893
02:21:43,750 --> 02:21:41,040
little bit of a story anything you want

3894
02:21:44,950 --> 02:21:43,760
to share here and we'll get going so uh

3895
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,960
joshua what's happening brother

3896
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:46,160
appreciate you hopping on here with us

3897
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,200
tonight

3898
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:49,280
how's it going man y'all hear me good

3899
02:21:53,990 --> 02:21:51,680
yeah it sounds so beautiful

3900
02:21:55,990 --> 02:21:54,000
i didn't expect to be doing this but um

3901
02:21:57,590 --> 02:21:56,000
the topic tonight uh i was actually

3902
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:57,600
wanting to share some of this last week

3903
02:22:00,469 --> 02:21:59,120
with uh ben and joe and i didn't really

3904
02:22:02,469 --> 02:22:00,479
have the time so

3905
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:02,479
beer now be a good time i know you got

3906
02:22:06,469 --> 02:22:04,240
some other again i'm gonna try to get

3907
02:22:08,870 --> 02:22:06,479
this out as quick as i can oh we love it

3908
02:22:10,469 --> 02:22:08,880
go for it and in a weird way it kind of

3909
02:22:12,870 --> 02:22:10,479
links up with uh

3910
02:22:15,030 --> 02:22:12,880
my ufo sightings to be honest uh or

3911
02:22:15,910 --> 02:22:15,040
mainly or i know i mentioned that last

3912
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:15,920
week

3913
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:18,399
um so uh i guess the best way for me to

3914
02:22:24,790 --> 02:22:20,960
do this is to start at the beginning

3915
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:24,800
um a a few months before i was born uh

3916
02:22:28,950 --> 02:22:27,200
my my great grandfather and there's only

3917
02:22:30,230 --> 02:22:28,960
two people in the story i need to

3918
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,240
differentiate

3919
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:32,560
my grandfather and my great grandfather

3920
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:34,319
and my great grandfather he was a

3921
02:22:38,389 --> 02:22:36,640
full-blooded blackfoot native american

3922
02:22:40,309 --> 02:22:38,399
actually and um i

3923
02:22:41,910 --> 02:22:40,319
i honestly feel like that might play a

3924
02:22:44,070 --> 02:22:41,920
role in this

3925
02:22:46,469 --> 02:22:44,080
well um a couple months before i was

3926
02:22:48,710 --> 02:22:46,479
born um unfortunately

3927
02:22:51,270 --> 02:22:48,720
some uh some robbers broke

3928
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:51,280
broken his house and killed him they

3929
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:52,560
he actually want him hit him in the head

3930
02:22:56,790 --> 02:22:55,439
with a hammer and you know he

3931
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,800
he passed away

3932
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:58,319
well um

3933
02:23:01,910 --> 02:23:00,640
the day that i was born and this is

3934
02:23:03,910 --> 02:23:01,920
going to sound

3935
02:23:05,510 --> 02:23:03,920
really bizarre and i want to put this

3936
02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:05,520
out there first and nobody else in my

3937
02:23:11,670 --> 02:23:08,960
family has any kind of story like this

3938
02:23:15,110 --> 02:23:11,680
my mother and my grandmother

3939
02:23:17,670 --> 02:23:15,120
were in the hospital with me and

3940
02:23:20,230 --> 02:23:17,680
for like this split moment they say that

3941
02:23:21,110 --> 02:23:20,240
uh and they told me this story my entire

3942
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:21,120
life

3943
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:23,200
i'm sorry can you see me my yeah my

3944
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:25,840
camera flipped right down i was weird

3945
02:23:31,429 --> 02:23:26,720
um

3946
02:23:33,030 --> 02:23:31,439
i don't know how to put it into words

3947
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:33,040
they don't know how to put into words

3948
02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:33,920
but

3949
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:35,280
my grandmother

3950
02:23:39,349 --> 02:23:37,280
and my mother they say that for like a

3951
02:23:40,469 --> 02:23:39,359
split moment they

3952
02:23:42,710 --> 02:23:40,479
saw

3953
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:42,720
my great grandfather

3954
02:23:48,070 --> 02:23:45,359
in me i get and i'm less than 24 hours

3955
02:23:49,830 --> 02:23:48,080
years old i'm you know i'm a newborn

3956
02:23:52,309 --> 02:23:49,840
and i don't understand what that means

3957
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:52,319
you know uh it sent my mother kind of

3958
02:23:56,469 --> 02:23:54,479
into a bit of a shock to be honest she

3959
02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:56,479
said she actually got emotional start

3960
02:24:00,230 --> 02:23:58,000
tearing up and uh

3961
02:24:01,510 --> 02:24:00,240
freaked out and they uh they both said

3962
02:24:03,030 --> 02:24:01,520
that they felt

3963
02:24:05,190 --> 02:24:03,040
something kind of like a surge of

3964
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:05,200
electricity going through their body at

3965
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:06,319
the time

3966
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:08,960
and um my whole life i took this as you

3967
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:10,080
know just a

3968
02:24:13,590 --> 02:24:11,680
a nice boy they always said that they

3969
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:13,600
thought you know maybe he was watching

3970
02:24:17,270 --> 02:24:15,760
over me in some type of way

3971
02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:17,280
now um

3972
02:24:21,670 --> 02:24:19,439
especially after uh some

3973
02:24:23,590 --> 02:24:21,680
conversations i i was literally just

3974
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:23,600
talking to chris bledsoe uh senior about

3975
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:25,920
this yesterday and he thinks it plays a

3976
02:24:28,790 --> 02:24:27,359
big role in the orbs that i've been

3977
02:24:30,230 --> 02:24:28,800
seeing here lately

3978
02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:30,240
well um

3979
02:24:34,150 --> 02:24:32,160
i need to jump forward you know i mean

3980
02:24:35,110 --> 02:24:34,160
uh sorry let me let me back up just a

3981
02:24:37,270 --> 02:24:35,120
little bit

3982
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:37,280
they my mother the best place you can

3983
02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:39,040
explain this to me she said that she saw

3984
02:24:42,870 --> 02:24:41,520
my great grandfather's face

3985
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:42,880
i guess

3986
02:24:45,990 --> 02:24:44,080
uh

3987
02:24:47,750 --> 02:24:46,000
are like in me somehow but there was

3988
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:47,760
like an aura around me and it was just

3989
02:24:51,830 --> 02:24:49,439
for like half a second

3990
02:24:54,150 --> 02:24:51,840
but um you know it freaked both out but

3991
02:24:55,590 --> 02:24:54,160
they both saw the same thing and um you

3992
02:24:57,110 --> 02:24:55,600
know i just thought this is a nice story

3993
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:57,120
my entire life

3994
02:25:01,270 --> 02:24:58,560
well um

3995
02:25:02,550 --> 02:25:01,280
when i'm in high school uh i'm about 16

3996
02:25:05,670 --> 02:25:02,560
years old

3997
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:05,680
one day i come home from school and uh

3998
02:25:08,710 --> 02:25:07,040
i i've

3999
02:25:11,030 --> 02:25:08,720
been working on a loss on a football

4000
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:11,040
team at the time i came home and i laid

4001
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:12,880
down on my couch just take the nap take

4002
02:25:18,710 --> 02:25:15,439
a nap sorry and um i apologize i get a

4003
02:25:21,510 --> 02:25:18,720
little emotional talking about this

4004
02:25:23,910 --> 02:25:21,520
i have this dream and it's uh

4005
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:23,920
one of the most if not the most pivotal

4006
02:25:27,429 --> 02:25:26,240
thing that's ever happened in my life

4007
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,439
and i'm gonna try to go through this

4008
02:25:32,070 --> 02:25:29,680
step by step as quick as i can

4009
02:25:34,710 --> 02:25:32,080
in this dream i literally wake up on my

4010
02:25:36,950 --> 02:25:34,720
couch exactly where i'm laying down

4011
02:25:39,510 --> 02:25:36,960
and uh when i first

4012
02:25:40,550 --> 02:25:39,520
woke up in my dream you know i thought i

4013
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:40,560
woke up

4014
02:25:45,349 --> 02:25:42,800
as soon as i stood up i had this intense

4015
02:25:47,830 --> 02:25:45,359
vertigo and i mean to tell you like my

4016
02:25:49,429 --> 02:25:47,840
like to this day i can remember the

4017
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:49,439
weight it felt felt like my head was

4018
02:25:52,469 --> 02:25:50,640
spinning

4019
02:25:54,710 --> 02:25:52,479
like like my head was pounding and it

4020
02:25:56,790 --> 02:25:54,720
felt physical like actual physical you

4021
02:25:58,469 --> 02:25:56,800
know i mean god i got chills right now i

4022
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:58,479
was talking about this

4023
02:26:01,750 --> 02:26:00,720
i felt straight to the floor like i fall

4024
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:01,760
down

4025
02:26:05,990 --> 02:26:04,080
and um everything is spinning i

4026
02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:06,000
literally have to use the wall

4027
02:26:09,830 --> 02:26:07,760
to prop myself up

4028
02:26:11,670 --> 02:26:09,840
and i pull myself up

4029
02:26:13,510 --> 02:26:11,680
and i'm trying to work my way down the

4030
02:26:15,030 --> 02:26:13,520
hallway to get to what would have been

4031
02:26:17,110 --> 02:26:15,040
my old bedroom

4032
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:17,120
and the entire time this vertigo you

4033
02:26:21,429 --> 02:26:19,359
know just hit me so hard

4034
02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:21,439
i opened this door to go into what

4035
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:23,760
should have been my old bedroom

4036
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:24,800
and um

4037
02:26:29,670 --> 02:26:27,520
when i walk into this room it's not my

4038
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:29,680
old bedroom it's this big empty square

4039
02:26:32,230 --> 02:26:30,720
room

4040
02:26:35,030 --> 02:26:32,240
and um

4041
02:26:36,950 --> 02:26:35,040
my vertigo immediately stops and

4042
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:36,960
i'm not spinning anymore i'm just really

4043
02:26:39,510 --> 02:26:38,240
confused trying to figure out what's

4044
02:26:41,349 --> 02:26:39,520
going on

4045
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:41,359
and um like i said to this day i can

4046
02:26:44,309 --> 02:26:42,960
remember this stream step by step and

4047
02:26:45,830 --> 02:26:44,319
that's another thing my dreams are

4048
02:26:47,910 --> 02:26:45,840
usually scattered you know this stream

4049
02:26:50,150 --> 02:26:47,920
was linear i can literally remember

4050
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:50,160
every single step every detail

4051
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,800
um i think about almost every single day

4052
02:26:56,469 --> 02:26:54,800
well there was a man sitting in the

4053
02:26:59,030 --> 02:26:56,479
middle in the middle of this room in a

4054
02:27:00,389 --> 02:26:59,040
chair like in a pulled out steel chair

4055
02:27:01,990 --> 02:27:00,399
and he's just sitting there and he has

4056
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:02,000
an empty chair in front of him facing

4057
02:27:05,270 --> 02:27:03,040
him

4058
02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:05,280
and this man has white hair he has a hat

4059
02:27:10,550 --> 02:27:06,240
on

4060
02:27:11,590 --> 02:27:10,560
just walk up and i sit down in this

4061
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:11,600
chair

4062
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:14,160
and this man tells me um

4063
02:27:16,870 --> 02:27:15,120
he says

4064
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,880
it's nice to meet you i've heard a lot

4065
02:27:20,389 --> 02:27:18,319
about you

4066
02:27:22,309 --> 02:27:20,399
and he kind of nods his head behind him

4067
02:27:24,870 --> 02:27:22,319
and there's a door in the back of this

4068
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:24,880
room behind him and he says there's

4069
02:27:29,670 --> 02:27:27,200
somebody out there that wants to see you

4070
02:27:31,830 --> 02:27:29,680
so i'm still just really confused and i

4071
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:31,840
apologize my heart beating you know this

4072
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:33,840
uh this dream really is

4073
02:27:37,910 --> 02:27:36,240
you know it plays a big part of i mean

4074
02:27:39,590 --> 02:27:37,920
it literally changed me you know it

4075
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:39,600
changed everything about me

4076
02:27:43,990 --> 02:27:42,000
well i get up and i walk out this

4077
02:27:45,110 --> 02:27:44,000
this uh through this door at the back of

4078
02:27:46,710 --> 02:27:45,120
this room

4079
02:27:48,550 --> 02:27:46,720
and whenever i open up this door to go

4080
02:27:50,950 --> 02:27:48,560
to this you know

4081
02:27:54,389 --> 02:27:50,960
to through the back of this room sorry

4082
02:27:56,150 --> 02:27:54,399
i'm immediately in front of um

4083
02:27:58,630 --> 02:27:56,160
my grandparents house my grandmother and

4084
02:28:00,230 --> 02:27:58,640
my grandfather um not my not my

4085
02:28:01,750 --> 02:28:00,240
great-grandfather who was killed you

4086
02:28:04,469 --> 02:28:01,760
know before i was born

4087
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:04,479
but um my grandmother who's still alive

4088
02:28:07,110 --> 02:28:05,359
today

4089
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:07,120
and my grandfather he actually passed

4090
02:28:09,910 --> 02:28:08,800
away whenever i was about seven or eight

4091
02:28:12,309 --> 02:28:09,920
years old

4092
02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:12,319
it was their house and uh it was painted

4093
02:28:15,750 --> 02:28:13,920
the same color it was before my

4094
02:28:17,830 --> 02:28:15,760
grandfather passed away

4095
02:28:18,790 --> 02:28:17,840
so i walked up to this door

4096
02:28:21,910 --> 02:28:18,800
and

4097
02:28:23,670 --> 02:28:21,920
something inside of me uh

4098
02:28:25,750 --> 02:28:23,680
i knew that whenever i knocked on the

4099
02:28:27,990 --> 02:28:25,760
store somehow that i was going to see my

4100
02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:28,000
grandfather and me and my grandfather

4101
02:28:30,469 --> 02:28:29,359
were extremely close whenever i was a

4102
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:30,479
kid

4103
02:28:34,630 --> 02:28:32,640
so i i knock on the door

4104
02:28:36,389 --> 02:28:34,640
and sure enough like

4105
02:28:38,550 --> 02:28:36,399
when the door opens it's him it's my

4106
02:28:41,349 --> 02:28:38,560
grandfather and i mean to tell you i can

4107
02:28:43,270 --> 02:28:41,359
remember him better in this dream

4108
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:43,280
than i can as a child i mean thinking

4109
02:28:46,550 --> 02:28:44,560
about it right now it's like you

4110
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:46,560
standing right there in front of me

4111
02:28:51,670 --> 02:28:48,640
and i try to say something to him i

4112
02:28:53,349 --> 02:28:51,680
immediately got choked up and i just got

4113
02:28:55,590 --> 02:28:53,359
emotional be honest i started breaking

4114
02:28:57,510 --> 02:28:55,600
down and um

4115
02:28:59,910 --> 02:28:57,520
he just you know he hugged me

4116
02:29:01,830 --> 02:28:59,920
he said everything's gonna be okay

4117
02:29:04,950 --> 02:29:01,840
and immediately i woke up

4118
02:29:07,349 --> 02:29:04,960
and whenever i woke up i felt

4119
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:07,359
this this feeling in my body i've never

4120
02:29:10,950 --> 02:29:09,040
felt in my life you know it's like i was

4121
02:29:12,389 --> 02:29:10,960
in shock it was a mix of so many

4122
02:29:15,510 --> 02:29:12,399
different emotions

4123
02:29:17,750 --> 02:29:15,520
it was uh you know almost like scared

4124
02:29:19,750 --> 02:29:17,760
freaked out but at the same time i was

4125
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:19,760
you know happy that i got to see my

4126
02:29:23,670 --> 02:29:22,319
grandfather you know um right and i

4127
02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:23,680
apologize if i sound like i'm getting a

4128
02:29:26,870 --> 02:29:25,600
little choked up talking about this no

4129
02:29:28,230 --> 02:29:26,880
but i find it

4130
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:28,240
it uh

4131
02:29:30,070 --> 02:29:29,280
yeah

4132
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:30,080
it

4133
02:29:37,990 --> 02:29:36,479
so um i go on i get up and i go tell my

4134
02:29:39,429 --> 02:29:38,000
sister about it my younger sister she

4135
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:39,439
kind of looked at me like i was crazy

4136
02:29:42,230 --> 02:29:40,720
you know she didn't know what was going

4137
02:29:44,309 --> 02:29:42,240
on she was a little bit younger than me

4138
02:29:47,190 --> 02:29:44,319
at the time but i go to tell my mother

4139
02:29:48,710 --> 02:29:47,200
about this and my mother she's um

4140
02:29:50,230 --> 02:29:48,720
she's half native american as well i

4141
02:29:53,110 --> 02:29:50,240
know i don't look at very much but i'm a

4142
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,120
quarter of black foot myself

4143
02:29:57,990 --> 02:29:56,000
um what really caught my mother not just

4144
02:30:00,389 --> 02:29:58,000
the fact that i saw her father in my

4145
02:30:02,389 --> 02:30:00,399
dream was the first man in the dream

4146
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:02,399
that i i talk about the man who was

4147
02:30:06,230 --> 02:30:04,800
sitting in a chair the way that i

4148
02:30:07,990 --> 02:30:06,240
described him

4149
02:30:09,510 --> 02:30:08,000
my mother she and first off she

4150
02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:09,520
immediately picked up the phone and she

4151
02:30:14,550 --> 02:30:11,439
called my grandmother and um it was her

4152
02:30:17,030 --> 02:30:14,560
yard who i was you know in in the dream

4153
02:30:19,030 --> 02:30:17,040
uh whenever i knocked on the door

4154
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:19,040
she calls her and starts talking about

4155
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:21,840
it and what's really crazy and it trips

4156
02:30:26,389 --> 02:30:23,840
me out to this day the way that i

4157
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:26,399
explain him um i mean down to the

4158
02:30:29,590 --> 02:30:28,080
details of what he was wearing the hat

4159
02:30:32,070 --> 02:30:29,600
the color of his hair

4160
02:30:34,070 --> 02:30:32,080
uh fit an identical description to my

4161
02:30:35,750 --> 02:30:34,080
great grandfather the one who passed

4162
02:30:37,510 --> 02:30:35,760
away before i was born

4163
02:30:39,990 --> 02:30:37,520
and i need to tell you i've never seen a

4164
02:30:41,910 --> 02:30:40,000
picture of this man my entire life he

4165
02:30:44,710 --> 02:30:41,920
was just a really uh

4166
02:30:46,630 --> 02:30:44,720
you know uh sealed off person he

4167
02:30:48,150 --> 02:30:46,640
you you know i've never seen a picture

4168
02:30:49,750 --> 02:30:48,160
of him to this day nobody has a picture

4169
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:49,760
of him that's just you know he's kind of

4170
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:51,520
like an isolated person

4171
02:30:55,830 --> 02:30:54,000
it was really bizarre and you know my

4172
02:30:57,270 --> 02:30:55,840
mother always told me in my entire life

4173
02:30:59,030 --> 02:30:57,280
from that first experience i told you

4174
02:31:01,510 --> 02:30:59,040
about whenever i was born that she

4175
02:31:03,110 --> 02:31:01,520
thought that he was you know like a

4176
02:31:04,309 --> 02:31:03,120
guardian angel whatever you want to call

4177
02:31:06,309 --> 02:31:04,319
it and i mentioned something on my

4178
02:31:07,590 --> 02:31:06,319
podcast with ben and joe about me

4179
02:31:09,190 --> 02:31:07,600
believing that

4180
02:31:10,790 --> 02:31:09,200
you know i have somebody watching over

4181
02:31:12,790 --> 02:31:10,800
me because of um

4182
02:31:14,550 --> 02:31:12,800
a bad corks and that was in

4183
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:14,560
well um that's something else i need to

4184
02:31:17,349 --> 02:31:16,080
get into i'm going to try to get this as

4185
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:17,359
quick as i can

4186
02:31:22,469 --> 02:31:18,880
so we got about two minutes for you

4187
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:22,479
brother okay um so almost exactly a year

4188
02:31:27,030 --> 02:31:25,439
after i have this this insane dream

4189
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:27,040
i get into this horrible head-on

4190
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:29,200
collision with a drunk driver

4191
02:31:33,830 --> 02:31:30,479
and um

4192
02:31:35,190 --> 02:31:33,840
i'm stuck in this this vehicle for i was

4193
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:35,200
literally stuck in this car for an hour

4194
02:31:38,309 --> 02:31:36,560
and a half

4195
02:31:40,630 --> 02:31:38,319
i mean when i woke up the first thing i

4196
02:31:42,389 --> 02:31:40,640
remember was spitting out my teeth i

4197
02:31:44,309 --> 02:31:42,399
mentioned on the podcast last week we've

4198
02:31:46,630 --> 02:31:44,319
been you know that um

4199
02:31:48,150 --> 02:31:46,640
right now i mean minutes if not seconds

4200
02:31:49,910 --> 02:31:48,160
before i got into this car accident i

4201
02:31:51,510 --> 02:31:49,920
put both my feet out the passenger

4202
02:31:53,110 --> 02:31:51,520
window i kind of just crossed my feet

4203
02:31:56,630 --> 02:31:53,120
and leaned my seat back

4204
02:31:59,349 --> 02:31:56,640
and the truck hit me and i was pinned in

4205
02:32:01,110 --> 02:31:59,359
and uh what's really insane is the the

4206
02:32:02,469 --> 02:32:01,120
car was crushed in on my side and the

4207
02:32:04,469 --> 02:32:02,479
dashboard was pushed all the way up

4208
02:32:06,309 --> 02:32:04,479
against me if my feet would have been

4209
02:32:08,070 --> 02:32:06,319
inside of the car both my legs would

4210
02:32:10,389 --> 02:32:08,080
have been completely crushed

4211
02:32:12,389 --> 02:32:10,399
and uh i don't know what made me do that

4212
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:12,399
you know i can't think of any time in my

4213
02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:14,240
entire life that i put both my feet out

4214
02:32:18,150 --> 02:32:15,520
the window

4215
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:18,160
um you know it's just something insane

4216
02:32:22,070 --> 02:32:20,080
you know i i guess you know intuition

4217
02:32:22,950 --> 02:32:22,080
whatever you want to call it

4218
02:32:24,790 --> 02:32:22,960
um

4219
02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:24,800
one other thing i i mean there's a lot

4220
02:32:27,830 --> 02:32:26,399
of things i could really talk about with

4221
02:32:28,950 --> 02:32:27,840
this but um

4222
02:32:31,270 --> 02:32:28,960
i need to

4223
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:31,280
get this in here really quick yeah go

4224
02:32:34,710 --> 02:32:33,520
for it then a week in a coma after this

4225
02:32:37,030 --> 02:32:34,720
car accident

4226
02:32:39,190 --> 02:32:37,040
my jaw was wired shut for four months i

4227
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:39,200
spent six months in a wheelchair

4228
02:32:41,670 --> 02:32:40,479
uh i had to go through another year of

4229
02:32:44,389 --> 02:32:41,680
physical therapy i literally had to

4230
02:32:45,670 --> 02:32:44,399
learn how to walk all over again the uh

4231
02:32:47,349 --> 02:32:45,680
there's told me i would probably be on a

4232
02:32:49,190 --> 02:32:47,359
cane within a few years and i'm still

4233
02:32:50,630 --> 02:32:49,200
walking today you know so it's a

4234
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:50,640
blessing there

4235
02:32:54,469 --> 02:32:53,439
well um five years after this car

4236
02:32:56,630 --> 02:32:54,479
accident

4237
02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:56,640
um now i spent a lot of time going

4238
02:33:01,030 --> 02:32:59,040
through depression uh i went through

4239
02:33:02,710 --> 02:33:01,040
um addiction through painkillers which i

4240
02:33:03,910 --> 02:33:02,720
i've i've beaten that addiction you know

4241
02:33:06,309 --> 02:33:03,920
but um

4242
02:33:08,070 --> 02:33:06,319
about five years after this car accident

4243
02:33:10,230 --> 02:33:08,080
and i can prove this today and i also

4244
02:33:13,190 --> 02:33:10,240
mentioned this on the podcast last week

4245
02:33:15,670 --> 02:33:13,200
today i mean right now the uh the man

4246
02:33:17,510 --> 02:33:15,680
who hit me who almost killed me he lives

4247
02:33:20,389 --> 02:33:17,520
directly across the street from my

4248
02:33:21,429 --> 02:33:20,399
mother it's it's insane it's like

4249
02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:21,439
something

4250
02:33:24,950 --> 02:33:23,439
movie and i mean i'm i'm not making this

4251
02:33:25,670 --> 02:33:24,960
up you know i can prove this right now

4252
02:33:28,070 --> 02:33:25,680
he

4253
02:33:29,429 --> 02:33:28,080
yeah well um one day i'm gonna get us in

4254
02:33:31,110 --> 02:33:29,439
here real quick

4255
02:33:32,710 --> 02:33:31,120
one day i'm going to my mother's house

4256
02:33:35,030 --> 02:33:32,720
and it was just eating me up because

4257
02:33:38,070 --> 02:33:35,040
i've been letting this you know uh

4258
02:33:39,910 --> 02:33:38,080
this this anger uh just take over me and

4259
02:33:41,429 --> 02:33:39,920
this depression you know having to go to

4260
02:33:43,510 --> 02:33:41,439
my mother's house knowing that this man

4261
02:33:45,590 --> 02:33:43,520
who you know screwed up my life so much

4262
02:33:46,710 --> 02:33:45,600
lives right across the street from a mom

4263
02:33:48,790 --> 02:33:46,720
and even

4264
02:33:50,630 --> 02:33:48,800
you know she still tells me today that

4265
02:33:52,309 --> 02:33:50,640
she has trouble waking up you know and

4266
02:33:54,710 --> 02:33:52,319
seeing this guy across the street from

4267
02:33:56,070 --> 02:33:54,720
me and uh or from her and he was

4268
02:33:58,070 --> 02:33:56,080
actually running for senator of

4269
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:58,080
robertson county uh he

4270
02:34:02,230 --> 02:34:00,560
he fled the senior car accident

4271
02:34:04,070 --> 02:34:02,240
and uh you know left me and my best

4272
02:34:06,150 --> 02:34:04,080
friend his little sister for dead

4273
02:34:08,469 --> 02:34:06,160
well i'm going to my mom's house

4274
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:08,479
and i felt this um

4275
02:34:11,110 --> 02:34:09,439
something

4276
02:34:13,270 --> 02:34:11,120
just like this

4277
02:34:14,710 --> 02:34:13,280
urge came over me i pulled my car over

4278
02:34:16,710 --> 02:34:14,720
to the side of the road

4279
02:34:18,550 --> 02:34:16,720
and i pulled out a scrap piece of paper

4280
02:34:19,349 --> 02:34:18,560
and i wrote down

4281
02:34:20,389 --> 02:34:19,359
um

4282
02:34:21,990 --> 02:34:20,399
initially i thought i was just gonna be

4283
02:34:23,270 --> 02:34:22,000
writing this for myself but i wrote down

4284
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:23,280
on this paper

4285
02:34:27,429 --> 02:34:25,760
that i forgive this man i'm not gonna

4286
02:34:28,630 --> 02:34:27,439
let this anger control me for the rest

4287
02:34:30,710 --> 02:34:28,640
of my life

4288
02:34:33,110 --> 02:34:30,720
well i go up to my mom's house and i see

4289
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:33,120
this guy and he's outside feeding his

4290
02:34:36,150 --> 02:34:34,240
chickens

4291
02:34:38,230 --> 02:34:36,160
and uh my heart's pounding tell me all

4292
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:38,240
this right now i apologize

4293
02:34:41,349 --> 02:34:39,520
um

4294
02:34:42,790 --> 02:34:41,359
instead of pulling to my mom's driveway

4295
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:42,800
and one thing that really hit me is i'm

4296
02:34:46,309 --> 02:34:44,399
thinking to myself on one side of the

4297
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:46,319
street i have the person who gave me

4298
02:34:49,349 --> 02:34:48,080
life on the other side of the street

4299
02:34:50,389 --> 02:34:49,359
this person who almost took one in my

4300
02:34:51,910 --> 02:34:50,399
life

4301
02:34:53,990 --> 02:34:51,920
so instead of pulling into the driveway

4302
02:34:55,590 --> 02:34:54,000
to go to my mother's house i go into

4303
02:34:58,389 --> 02:34:55,600
this man's yard

4304
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:58,399
and i get out my car i walk to him my

4305
02:35:01,830 --> 02:35:00,319
heart's pounding out my chest and i hand

4306
02:35:04,230 --> 02:35:01,840
him this letter i literally shake the

4307
02:35:06,870 --> 02:35:04,240
hand of the man who almost killed me

4308
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:06,880
and i gave him this letter and uh

4309
02:35:10,550 --> 02:35:08,560
i can't even remember what i said to him

4310
02:35:12,230 --> 02:35:10,560
to be honest but um

4311
02:35:14,150 --> 02:35:12,240
i just i handed it to him i turned

4312
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:14,160
around i walked away

4313
02:35:18,550 --> 02:35:16,640
now um it didn't occur to me until just

4314
02:35:20,790 --> 02:35:18,560
here recently whenever i spoke with uh

4315
02:35:22,790 --> 02:35:20,800
chris bledsoe senior about this

4316
02:35:24,950 --> 02:35:22,800
that it was the same year

4317
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:24,960
around is the same summer that i handed

4318
02:35:29,270 --> 02:35:26,640
this man this letter that i had my first

4319
02:35:31,670 --> 02:35:29,280
year both siding at the caper river

4320
02:35:33,590 --> 02:35:31,680
and uh that's you know

4321
02:35:34,870 --> 02:35:33,600
synchronicity called what you will you

4322
02:35:36,469 --> 02:35:34,880
know i

4323
02:35:39,030 --> 02:35:36,479
i don't believe these things happen on

4324
02:35:40,870 --> 02:35:39,040
accident um there was really a lot more

4325
02:35:42,950 --> 02:35:40,880
things i wanted to get in there but uh

4326
02:35:44,469 --> 02:35:42,960
uh you know i try to cram this in there

4327
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:44,479
you did great brother you did great and

4328
02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:46,800
i'm sorry we're you know i wish i if i

4329
02:35:49,270 --> 02:35:47,920
had known that this many people were

4330
02:35:50,550 --> 02:35:49,280
gonna share tonight i would have maybe

4331
02:35:52,389 --> 02:35:50,560
cut down the times in the beginning i

4332
02:35:54,790 --> 02:35:52,399
apologize guys we'll have to set someone

4333
02:35:56,150 --> 02:35:54,800
like this again for sure and we'll get a

4334
02:35:57,750 --> 02:35:56,160
little better at it i think chad's

4335
02:35:58,870 --> 02:35:57,760
rocking out i gotta work on it i'll

4336
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:58,880
figure it out

4337
02:36:02,870 --> 02:36:00,960
but uh we appreciate each and every one

4338
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:02,880
of you sharing um if there's anywhere

4339
02:36:05,110 --> 02:36:04,000
that anybody can follow you or anything

4340
02:36:06,630 --> 02:36:05,120
if you'd like to plug that let them know

4341
02:36:08,389 --> 02:36:06,640
and then i'll take you backstage i can

4342
02:36:10,870 --> 02:36:08,399
bring on sunsaber here

4343
02:36:13,349 --> 02:36:10,880
um not at the moment but actually i've

4344
02:36:15,429 --> 02:36:13,359
been speaking with my mufon investigator

4345
02:36:16,790 --> 02:36:15,439
and she she's a really great lady she's

4346
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:16,800
been telling me i need to set up my own

4347
02:36:20,950 --> 02:36:18,479
podcast get something to go and i

4348
02:36:23,510 --> 02:36:20,960
actually i just i saw four orbs uh the

4349
02:36:26,550 --> 02:36:23,520
night after my podcast uh the one i had

4350
02:36:30,950 --> 02:36:28,230
they gave me goosebumps

4351
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:30,960
couple other really bizarre things i um

4352
02:36:35,670 --> 02:36:33,439
saw my first uh i don't know the shadow

4353
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:35,680
shadow figure what do you call the them

4354
02:36:39,110 --> 02:36:37,520
that told me about his shadow people

4355
02:36:41,270 --> 02:36:39,120
i'm not gonna lie it scared the [\h__\h] out

4356
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:41,280
of me uh the night after

4357
02:36:44,950 --> 02:36:43,040
night after i spoke with ben and joe i

4358
02:36:45,990 --> 02:36:44,960
see four orbs and i go to lay down at

4359
02:36:47,670 --> 02:36:46,000
night and

4360
02:36:49,349 --> 02:36:47,680
shadow figure whatever walks to my

4361
02:36:51,110 --> 02:36:49,359
[\h__\h] kitchen as i'm sorry about my

4362
02:36:52,790 --> 02:36:51,120
lamb oh you're good you're going to tell

4363
02:36:54,710 --> 02:36:52,800
you that scared the hell on me i'm not

4364
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:54,720
gonna lie i'm still working on uh

4365
02:36:58,710 --> 02:36:56,800
dealing with that but uh yeah it's

4366
02:37:00,230 --> 02:36:58,720
definitely uh something else but um yeah

4367
02:37:01,830 --> 02:37:00,240
my phone investigator has been telling

4368
02:37:04,309 --> 02:37:01,840
me i need to get my own podcast or you

4369
02:37:06,230 --> 02:37:04,319
know do something you know but uh i

4370
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:06,240
really appreciate y'all let me uh share

4371
02:37:09,110 --> 02:37:07,920
this thanks a lot josh but i've never

4372
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:09,120
talked to you before but i appreciate

4373
02:37:12,630 --> 02:37:10,960
you coming on it's good meeting you oh

4374
02:37:14,790 --> 02:37:12,640
yeah you too man thank you all doing an

4375
02:37:16,150 --> 02:37:14,800
awesome job oh thanks thanks a lot man

4376
02:37:17,750 --> 02:37:16,160
you have a good night brother stay safe

4377
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:17,760
and reach out to ben and joe for sure if

4378
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:19,280
anything else crazy happens man let them

4379
02:37:22,309 --> 02:37:20,080
know

4380
02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:22,319
okay i'll send them a few emails so

4381
02:37:24,230 --> 02:37:23,200
yeah

4382
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:24,240
all right peace brother have a good

4383
02:37:29,670 --> 02:37:27,200
night man have a good one

4384
02:37:33,270 --> 02:37:29,680
man this is amazing um so what i'll do

4385
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:33,280
is i want to bring on sunny and

4386
02:37:35,429 --> 02:37:34,080
uh

4387
02:37:37,270 --> 02:37:35,439
lewis at the very end to kind of do a

4388
02:37:38,790 --> 02:37:37,280
closing with us so sunset i'm gonna try

4389
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:38,800
and give you about 10 minutes if we can

4390
02:37:42,150 --> 02:37:40,720
give or take and we'll bring you on here

4391
02:37:43,910 --> 02:37:42,160
and then we'll get lynn wallington

4392
02:37:44,950 --> 02:37:43,920
rolling over there with sorry man guys i

4393
02:37:46,870 --> 02:37:44,960
wish we could just spend more time to

4394
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:46,880
like i want to go in depth on like every

4395
02:37:50,230 --> 02:37:48,240
single one of these stories this is how

4396
02:37:52,630 --> 02:37:50,240
seven hour podcasts happen

4397
02:37:55,110 --> 02:37:52,640
i'm telling you yeah like he said shadow

4398
02:37:57,349 --> 02:37:55,120
people was the top i agree

4399
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:57,359
all right so sunsaver um i want to thank

4400
02:38:01,110 --> 02:37:58,640
you first of all for making the time to

4401
02:38:02,870 --> 02:38:01,120
come on tonight how are we doing

4402
02:38:07,429 --> 02:38:02,880
hey

4403
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:07,439
good good to see you

4404
02:38:11,429 --> 02:38:09,040
good to see you too

4405
02:38:12,790 --> 02:38:11,439
do you by any chance have i actually

4406
02:38:14,070 --> 02:38:12,800
it's not that bad the echo is not that

4407
02:38:15,830 --> 02:38:14,080
bad because it will let you do the

4408
02:38:18,070 --> 02:38:15,840
talking um

4409
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:18,080
but do you by any chance have uh like

4410
02:38:22,150 --> 02:38:20,000
any earphones or anything like that

4411
02:38:23,830 --> 02:38:22,160
i do i have some here let's try that

4412
02:38:25,110 --> 02:38:23,840
right here hopefully

4413
02:38:27,190 --> 02:38:25,120
that's all right

4414
02:38:28,550 --> 02:38:27,200
we want to appreciate you uh obviously

4415
02:38:29,670 --> 02:38:28,560
you've always come on and supported the

4416
02:38:32,070 --> 02:38:29,680
show

4417
02:38:33,510 --> 02:38:32,080
through soar through us we've seen

4418
02:38:36,309 --> 02:38:33,520
quite a few of them supporting us we

4419
02:38:40,870 --> 02:38:36,319
really really appreciate that by the way

4420
02:38:43,510 --> 02:38:40,880
yes yes well i enjoy the show very much

4421
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:43,520
oh well we appreciate that uh so so what

4422
02:38:46,870 --> 02:38:45,359
tell us what are you in roughly eight to

4423
02:38:48,950 --> 02:38:46,880
ten minutes

4424
02:38:50,550 --> 02:38:48,960
what stories do you bring us here in the

4425
02:38:52,950 --> 02:38:50,560
in old blue as we continue to travel to

4426
02:39:00,950 --> 02:38:52,960
cosmos and and start slowly heading for

4427
02:39:09,030 --> 02:39:02,550
oh you might have cut out there brother

4428
02:39:12,309 --> 02:39:11,110
let's try csun zebra i'll see you go

4429
02:39:14,630 --> 02:39:12,319
ahead and mess with it for just a second

4430
02:39:18,070 --> 02:39:14,640
so you can get your audio back

4431
02:39:19,510 --> 02:39:18,080
i'll see if it changes the audio on you

4432
02:39:21,030 --> 02:39:19,520
let's see

4433
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:21,040
we still have your video we just don't

4434
02:39:24,710 --> 02:39:23,200
have your audio

4435
02:39:27,429 --> 02:39:24,720
it doesn't say you're muted though let

4436
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,439
me try this let me take let me uh

4437
02:39:30,790 --> 02:39:29,359
i'm going to send the link over on the

4438
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:30,800
right in the private message real quick

4439
02:39:34,870 --> 02:39:32,560
i'm just going to put you backstage and

4440
02:39:37,349 --> 02:39:34,880
then what i'll do

4441
02:39:38,389 --> 02:39:37,359
is um let me do this

4442
02:39:39,670 --> 02:39:38,399
here we go i'm going to send it in the

4443
02:39:41,190 --> 02:39:39,680
private message in the back so you can

4444
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:41,200
just click on that and then join right

4445
02:39:44,230 --> 02:39:42,880
back in you might have to leave but let

4446
02:39:47,750 --> 02:39:44,240
me try this adding right back in first

4447
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:49,910
nope that didn't work okay

4448
02:39:53,830 --> 02:39:52,560
let me add it here in the back man chad

4449
02:39:54,870 --> 02:39:53,840
so what do you think so far today what

4450
02:39:56,309 --> 02:39:54,880
are your thoughts while i'm sending some

4451
02:39:57,670 --> 02:39:56,319
of this over here what do you think did

4452
02:39:59,750 --> 02:39:57,680
you expect this what are your thoughts

4453
02:40:01,990 --> 02:39:59,760
on this did not expect this but uh like

4454
02:40:03,750 --> 02:40:02,000
three hours goes by so fast when you're

4455
02:40:06,550 --> 02:40:03,760
hearing this kind of stuff i mean it's

4456
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:06,560
so fast i keep getting i don't know

4457
02:40:11,030 --> 02:40:08,000
about you but i keep getting goosebumps

4458
02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:11,040
at certain times and it's almost like

4459
02:40:14,870 --> 02:40:13,120
the goosebumps are

4460
02:40:17,110 --> 02:40:14,880
when something's in here

4461
02:40:18,309 --> 02:40:17,120
with us i don't know it's a weird

4462
02:40:20,469 --> 02:40:18,319
feeling

4463
02:40:21,910 --> 02:40:20,479
when i get goosebumps it's like

4464
02:40:23,670 --> 02:40:21,920
yeah we hear you we hear what you're

4465
02:40:25,670 --> 02:40:23,680
talking about we're there we're right

4466
02:40:26,790 --> 02:40:25,680
there with you

4467
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:26,800
100

4468
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:28,160
all right let's see i'm gonna let him

4469
02:40:31,510 --> 02:40:30,160
try and hopefully get that in place uh

4470
02:40:32,790 --> 02:40:31,520
by the way let's get a couple shout outs

4471
02:40:34,230 --> 02:40:32,800
to everybody that's in the chat you guys

4472
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:34,240
have been amazing tonight you guys have

4473
02:40:37,190 --> 02:40:35,680
been so supportive of those reaching out

4474
02:40:39,269 --> 02:40:37,200
let's let's first of all give a hand to

4475
02:40:40,870 --> 02:40:39,279
everybody that is shared here tonight uh

4476
02:40:41,670 --> 02:40:40,880
as much as we can because really truly

4477
02:40:43,110 --> 02:40:41,680
guys

4478
02:40:45,429 --> 02:40:43,120
uh more than just those that have been

4479
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:45,439
able to listen and hear this um it it

4480
02:40:49,510 --> 02:40:47,600
means a lot to me like i i think helping

4481
02:40:50,630 --> 02:40:49,520
people open up about this stuff

4482
02:40:53,190 --> 02:40:50,640
sometimes there's so much that we're

4483
02:40:54,630 --> 02:40:53,200
carrying with us and baggage that

4484
02:40:56,469 --> 02:40:54,640
i think other people are carrying it

4485
02:40:57,990 --> 02:40:56,479
with us or along you know or they're

4486
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:58,000
with you carrying that same bag and you

4487
02:41:00,790 --> 02:40:59,600
just don't know about it

4488
02:41:03,110 --> 02:41:00,800
so

4489
02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:03,120
this has been amazing to kind of open

4490
02:41:05,990 --> 02:41:04,640
this up and we're going to have to i

4491
02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:06,000
don't know ben and joe you guys have to

4492
02:41:08,950 --> 02:41:07,359
start doing an extra show a week for the

4493
02:41:11,750 --> 02:41:08,960
two of you guys to just start bringing

4494
02:41:13,750 --> 02:41:11,760
people on yeah just some experiences

4495
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:13,760
yeah 100

4496
02:41:17,190 --> 02:41:15,840
let's see um

4497
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:17,200
sun saver let me see brother if you can

4498
02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:18,319
hear me so i was gonna do is i was gonna

4499
02:41:22,870 --> 02:41:20,319
have you copy and paste that link in the

4500
02:41:24,790 --> 02:41:22,880
back in the private chat and then go and

4501
02:41:26,070 --> 02:41:24,800
actually leave the chat and then come

4502
02:41:29,030 --> 02:41:26,080
right back in and i'll try and add you

4503
02:41:31,990 --> 02:41:30,870
we'll try that out yeah hopefully

4504
02:41:34,389 --> 02:41:32,000
that works out

4505
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:34,399
for your first for your first ever

4506
02:41:37,750 --> 02:41:36,160
podcast as people are saying party party

4507
02:41:39,910 --> 02:41:37,760
party party party

4508
02:41:41,670 --> 02:41:39,920
campbell right here

4509
02:41:42,950 --> 02:41:41,680
yeah this is actually going really well

4510
02:41:44,469 --> 02:41:42,960
um

4511
02:41:46,630 --> 02:41:44,479
it's taking me a little while to warm up

4512
02:41:49,269 --> 02:41:46,640
to the microphone but i think i i'm

4513
02:41:50,630 --> 02:41:49,279
feeling like i'm slowly you know

4514
02:41:52,790 --> 02:41:50,640
getting the hang of it

4515
02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:52,800
sometimes i come to a dead end i'm like

4516
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:58,070
what are we talking like even through

4517
02:42:01,910 --> 02:42:00,080
school i'd read a book and i'd read like

4518
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:01,920
a paragraph and then i'd have no idea

4519
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:03,359
what i just read

4520
02:42:07,590 --> 02:42:05,600
and i it kind of happens with

4521
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:07,600
this this stuff too but i'm getting

4522
02:42:11,110 --> 02:42:09,920
there i'm getting there well i mean you

4523
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:11,120
need something

4524
02:42:14,469 --> 02:42:13,120
or something oh for sure dude and by the

4525
02:42:15,990 --> 02:42:14,479
way shout out guys in case somebody

4526
02:42:17,349 --> 02:42:16,000
doesn't know i literally hit chat up

4527
02:42:20,230 --> 02:42:17,359
like what

4528
02:42:23,030 --> 02:42:20,240
an hour and a half maybe an hour before

4529
02:42:25,110 --> 02:42:23,040
the show yeah and all i did was say hey

4530
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:25,120
chad are you working tonight he was like

4531
02:42:28,710 --> 02:42:26,720
do you need me tell me you need me do

4532
02:42:30,309 --> 02:42:28,720
you need me right now because i need

4533
02:42:32,309 --> 02:42:30,319
i'll be there

4534
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:32,319
and i said yeah we scrambled

4535
02:42:35,750 --> 02:42:34,479
we did you know i don't see bim jim back

4536
02:42:37,830 --> 02:42:35,760
in here unfortunately i put him back in

4537
02:42:39,030 --> 02:42:37,840
the or not bim jim i'm sorry uh sun

4538
02:42:40,389 --> 02:42:39,040
saver i'm gonna try and put it back in

4539
02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:40,399
the chat again

4540
02:42:42,870 --> 02:42:41,920
hopefully we can get him back in if not

4541
02:42:44,630 --> 02:42:42,880
we'll have to set up a time to maybe

4542
02:42:46,710 --> 02:42:44,640
bring him on and see if

4543
02:42:48,230 --> 02:42:46,720
all right i put it back in the chat uh

4544
02:42:50,389 --> 02:42:48,240
but if not what i might do for a minute

4545
02:42:53,030 --> 02:42:50,399
is i might bring on sunny and lewis just

4546
02:42:54,550 --> 02:42:53,040
so we can do some closing thoughts here

4547
02:42:56,309 --> 02:42:54,560
on all of this

4548
02:42:58,790 --> 02:42:56,319
and and kind of wrap it up just in case

4549
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:58,800
we don't get sunsaver back

4550
02:43:02,710 --> 02:43:00,640
it's always something with the audio man

4551
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:02,720
it's always with the audio

4552
02:43:07,190 --> 02:43:05,040
and then we'll be rolling on over as you

4553
02:43:09,510 --> 02:43:07,200
all very well know lynn wallington

4554
02:43:11,349 --> 02:43:09,520
tonight i do apologize you said it was

4555
02:43:14,070 --> 02:43:11,359
uaps and what was the other part i

4556
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:14,080
missed who she had on um

4557
02:43:18,550 --> 02:43:17,040
tonight she's doing uap regression with

4558
02:43:20,830 --> 02:43:18,560
laurie mcdonald

4559
02:43:23,429 --> 02:43:20,840
it's gonna be good times good

4560
02:43:24,950 --> 02:43:23,439
times for sure that link to

4561
02:43:28,630 --> 02:43:24,960
yes while you're dropping that in the

4562
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:28,640
chat i'm gonna bring on our man sonny

4563
02:43:33,190 --> 02:43:30,720
from the paranormal chop shop

4564
02:43:46,230 --> 02:43:33,200
and his co-host right here

4565
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:47,429
oh yeah

4566
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:48,960
it was a great um

4567
02:43:54,150 --> 02:43:51,040
last night we party hard i guess you

4568
02:43:56,150 --> 02:43:54,160
know it was pretty cool man

4569
02:43:58,150 --> 02:43:56,160
yeah yes we did

4570
02:44:00,070 --> 02:43:58,160
wow what a show man i've been listening

4571
02:44:02,630 --> 02:44:00,080
the whole time this has been amazing

4572
02:44:04,309 --> 02:44:02,640
everybody coming on like this like you

4573
02:44:06,309 --> 02:44:04,319
know i really wanted to see that like

4574
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:06,319
people come on every time and just get

4575
02:44:09,750 --> 02:44:07,760
their experiences i thought that was

4576
02:44:12,469 --> 02:44:09,760
pretty freaking awesome man you know

4577
02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:12,479
it's not about us about them

4578
02:44:14,070 --> 02:44:13,359
you know

4579
02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:14,080
um

4580
02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:16,160
really quick guys i just got oh go ahead

4581
02:44:19,110 --> 02:44:17,920
sonny i just got sun saver back so i'm

4582
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:19,120
gonna try to pop a minute in a second

4583
02:44:22,150 --> 02:44:20,720
but go ahead what are we gonna say

4584
02:44:23,190 --> 02:44:22,160
no nothing going to try to bring them

4585
02:44:24,550 --> 02:44:23,200
back in

4586
02:44:28,550 --> 02:44:24,560
all right let's try this out again here

4587
02:44:33,110 --> 02:44:30,389
all right i can hear your mic this time

4588
02:44:34,950 --> 02:44:33,120
so yep hey

4589
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:34,960
folks how's it going

4590
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:36,560
not too bad about yourself tonight can

4591
02:44:46,150 --> 02:44:44,070
heck yeah thank you now man

4592
02:44:47,990 --> 02:44:46,160
thank you for being here hey thanks for

4593
02:44:50,550 --> 02:44:48,000
having me

4594
02:44:52,469 --> 02:44:50,560
oh yeah i love you boom you know watch

4595
02:44:55,349 --> 02:44:52,479
the show all the time

4596
02:45:00,070 --> 02:44:55,359
for sure i know we always see you never

4597
02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:02,389
did you you're freezing up man did you

4598
02:45:05,750 --> 02:45:03,359
have a

4599
02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:05,760
an ex oh man did it cut his audio oh

4600
02:45:10,309 --> 02:45:08,560
yeah it didn't cut his audio again

4601
02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:10,319
i think it says internet connection and

4602
02:45:14,070 --> 02:45:12,640
it just goes to video and i don't know

4603
02:45:16,710 --> 02:45:14,080
what's up with that maybe you need to

4604
02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:16,720
turn your camera off and just go audio

4605
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:18,640
yeah right

4606
02:45:23,190 --> 02:45:20,160
try that out sun saver try to remove

4607
02:45:25,110 --> 02:45:23,200
just and go just audio if you can

4608
02:45:26,790 --> 02:45:25,120
but he's frustrated he's like i think

4609
02:45:28,469 --> 02:45:26,800
he's too honest he has i think he's

4610
02:45:29,670 --> 02:45:28,479
telling us he has beautiful

4611
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:29,680
that's the same kind of hair i have

4612
02:45:32,710 --> 02:45:31,359
let's see i don't want to hear him so

4613
02:45:34,230 --> 02:45:32,720
bad

4614
02:45:35,990 --> 02:45:34,240
i know

4615
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:36,000
hey sunset are you able to turn your

4616
02:45:42,550 --> 02:45:40,720
camera off like it should say stop cam

4617
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,560
and then maybe that'll save you oh well

4618
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:44,479
that's a beautiful smile right there

4619
02:45:49,590 --> 02:45:47,040
that's a beautiful smile beautiful smile

4620
02:45:52,150 --> 02:45:49,600
frozen frozen smile and time

4621
02:45:54,070 --> 02:45:52,160
oh man i don't know what's i'm sorry i

4622
02:45:57,910 --> 02:45:54,080
guess he's not in the picture man i'm

4623
02:46:00,870 --> 02:45:58,790
all right here's something to do

4624
02:46:02,550 --> 02:46:00,880
sunsaver i'm going to move you backstage

4625
02:46:04,710 --> 02:46:02,560
for just a minute oh there's a there's a

4626
02:46:07,349 --> 02:46:04,720
beautiful face right there hey

4627
02:46:13,750 --> 02:46:10,309
chad sunsaver do me a favor you can hit

4628
02:46:15,269 --> 02:46:13,760
me up on email uh at oh man i was jesus

4629
02:46:18,070 --> 02:46:15,279
i always forget my own email i gotta get

4630
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:19,750
willy i'll put it on the terrible at

4631
02:46:24,230 --> 02:46:21,840
that stuff here we go

4632
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:24,240
ufo garagepodcast.com email me on there

4633
02:46:27,670 --> 02:46:25,439
and we'll get a time set up either with

4634
02:46:29,590 --> 02:46:27,680
myself or joe and ben to maybe like if

4635
02:46:30,950 --> 02:46:29,600
we i'm sure i'll talk to ben after the

4636
02:46:31,990 --> 02:46:30,960
show here tonight i'm sure he's going to

4637
02:46:33,670 --> 02:46:32,000
want to maybe start running something

4638
02:46:34,469 --> 02:46:33,680
like this maybe once a week or for the

4639
02:46:37,349 --> 02:46:34,479
week

4640
02:46:38,389 --> 02:46:37,359
i don't know it's their show so i never

4641
02:46:40,950 --> 02:46:38,399
want to say like what they're going to

4642
02:46:42,550 --> 02:46:40,960
do yes but i think they would be open to

4643
02:46:44,710 --> 02:46:42,560
start running something

4644
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:44,720
very similar to doing this often we have

4645
02:46:48,230 --> 02:46:46,960
seven minutes before sr comes on so i

4646
02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:48,240
wanted to say something which i wanted

4647
02:46:51,990 --> 02:46:50,080
to say earlier like with the whole show

4648
02:46:52,710 --> 02:46:52,000
thing like what i've been listening to

4649
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:52,720
like

4650
02:46:57,990 --> 02:46:56,399
your past

4651
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:58,000
your your your uh

4652
02:47:02,469 --> 02:47:00,000
your your your your people that passed

4653
02:47:05,429 --> 02:47:02,479
away that it's your family you know like

4654
02:47:07,590 --> 02:47:05,439
your grandpa you know like to me like i

4655
02:47:08,469 --> 02:47:07,600
remember like just seeing

4656
02:47:10,630 --> 02:47:08,479
him

4657
02:47:12,710 --> 02:47:10,640
in my dreams like i wonder if like

4658
02:47:14,870 --> 02:47:12,720
honestly like that's what i would reach

4659
02:47:17,190 --> 02:47:14,880
out to the chat like do you believe that

4660
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:17,200
actually there's like you know your your

4661
02:47:20,710 --> 02:47:18,319
past like

4662
02:47:22,389 --> 02:47:20,720
people come to you in your dreams and

4663
02:47:23,590 --> 02:47:22,399
actually are there you know or when

4664
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:23,600
you're walking around when you do

4665
02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:25,359
something stupid i remember i was like

4666
02:47:28,870 --> 02:47:27,279
damn it my grandma's there you know what

4667
02:47:30,870 --> 02:47:28,880
i'm saying like i always thought about

4668
02:47:32,469 --> 02:47:30,880
that you know like don't do that lewis

4669
02:47:35,030 --> 02:47:32,479
you know like i always thought about

4670
02:47:37,030 --> 02:47:35,040
that like you know

4671
02:47:38,950 --> 02:47:37,040
those people that made you you know

4672
02:47:40,070 --> 02:47:38,960
they're they're actually

4673
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:40,080
there

4674
02:47:43,910 --> 02:47:42,399
even though they've passed you know like

4675
02:47:46,070 --> 02:47:43,920
right i believe that there's always

4676
02:47:46,830 --> 02:47:46,080
around you know

4677
02:47:48,630 --> 02:47:46,840
oh

4678
02:47:51,030 --> 02:47:48,640
yeah

4679
02:47:52,630 --> 02:47:51,040
they're always around because i think

4680
02:47:55,910 --> 02:47:52,640
that they're you know we're all just

4681
02:47:57,190 --> 02:47:55,920
energy like big balls energy and like

4682
02:47:59,670 --> 02:47:57,200
everyone says

4683
02:48:01,510 --> 02:47:59,680
you can't you can't uh what do they say

4684
02:48:03,750 --> 02:48:01,520
you can't destroy energy or you can't

4685
02:48:06,630 --> 02:48:03,760
kill energy or something like that where

4686
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:06,640
energy always exists and

4687
02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:08,560
like you can shrink it down or move it

4688
02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:10,160
here move it there but you can't

4689
02:48:13,910 --> 02:48:11,040
actually

4690
02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:13,920
destroy it so i think if we're all built

4691
02:48:18,870 --> 02:48:16,720
from energy we're all built out of

4692
02:48:19,910 --> 02:48:18,880
electrical impulses and all that stuff

4693
02:48:21,269 --> 02:48:19,920
firing

4694
02:48:22,630 --> 02:48:21,279
to make us

4695
02:48:23,590 --> 02:48:22,640
work

4696
02:48:25,990 --> 02:48:23,600
um

4697
02:48:29,429 --> 02:48:26,000
i think once it's there it's there and

4698
02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:29,439
just because it's not in a physical body

4699
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:31,200
doesn't mean it's not

4700
02:48:35,190 --> 02:48:32,720
running through your electrical lines in

4701
02:48:37,190 --> 02:48:35,200
your house or yeah

4702
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:37,200
you know i believe your ancestors make

4703
02:48:41,750 --> 02:48:40,240
you uh or actually like actually

4704
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:41,760
stop you from doing certain things you

4705
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:43,680
know like be like hey man don't do that

4706
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:45,359
don't go over there don't go with that

4707
02:48:49,670 --> 02:48:47,439
girl don't do this you're like yeah like

4708
02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:49,680
joshua's like joshua's feet through the

4709
02:48:52,630 --> 02:48:50,960
window like

4710
02:48:54,469 --> 02:48:52,640
he just said he's never even remember

4711
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:54,479
doing that ever in his life

4712
02:48:57,910 --> 02:48:55,840
that's the reason i'm saying that like

4713
02:48:59,590 --> 02:48:57,920
i'm like man like imagine that you know

4714
02:49:01,269 --> 02:48:59,600
like you know like just

4715
02:49:03,190 --> 02:49:01,279
somebody's always around you you know it

4716
02:49:05,110 --> 02:49:03,200
makes you do certain decisions in your

4717
02:49:05,910 --> 02:49:05,120
life i think that's a great thing you

4718
02:49:07,030 --> 02:49:05,920
know

4719
02:49:08,150 --> 02:49:07,040
absolutely

4720
02:49:10,070 --> 02:49:08,160
what tell you what gentlemen we got

4721
02:49:12,550 --> 02:49:10,080
about five minutes what i'd love to do

4722
02:49:14,630 --> 02:49:12,560
and if you could in 60 seconds and we'll

4723
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:14,640
start with sunny sunny have you ever had

4724
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:16,720
a paranormal experience since we are

4725
02:49:21,510 --> 02:49:19,359
talking ghosts a little bit tonight yeah

4726
02:49:23,110 --> 02:49:21,520
and i know you see me backstage grabbing

4727
02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:23,120
that tissue when joshua was telling his

4728
02:49:28,870 --> 02:49:27,040
story joshua you made me tear up man

4729
02:49:31,750 --> 02:49:28,880
that was great man

4730
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:31,760
he's yeah that guy is awesome um yeah

4731
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:34,240
when i was like i want to say five or

4732
02:49:38,790 --> 02:49:35,920
six i was pretty little

4733
02:49:40,630 --> 02:49:38,800
um i woke up because someone was in my

4734
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,640
room standing in my doorway the door was

4735
02:49:43,990 --> 02:49:42,479
open and because i sleep with the door

4736
02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:44,000
shut when i was little

4737
02:49:49,910 --> 02:49:46,399
and i slipped the lights on so it's not

4738
02:49:54,309 --> 02:49:52,469
door open lights on and

4739
02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:54,319
my grandpa was staring standing in my

4740
02:49:58,150 --> 02:49:56,240
doorway and then

4741
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:58,160
once i woke up and seen him it was no

4742
02:50:00,950 --> 02:49:59,200
big deal

4743
02:50:03,910 --> 02:50:00,960
until i realized that

4744
02:50:06,870 --> 02:50:03,920
my grandpa had died you know and

4745
02:50:08,950 --> 02:50:06,880
recently he had just died and i started

4746
02:50:10,710 --> 02:50:08,960
screaming it scared me and it was just

4747
02:50:13,670 --> 02:50:10,720
my grandfather not scary looking or

4748
02:50:15,110 --> 02:50:13,680
anything and my mom came in the room and

4749
02:50:16,630 --> 02:50:15,120
asked why i was crying what the hell was

4750
02:50:18,070 --> 02:50:16,640
wrong with me because i was i was

4751
02:50:20,230 --> 02:50:18,080
screaming

4752
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,240
and i told her you know

4753
02:50:23,670 --> 02:50:22,800
grandpa was in in my room and she's

4754
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:23,680
saying

4755
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:25,359
no there's no one in here and he's

4756
02:50:29,190 --> 02:50:26,800
literally almost touching her they're

4757
02:50:31,349 --> 02:50:29,200
standing right next to each other and so

4758
02:50:32,550 --> 02:50:31,359
as a kid i remember seeing that and my

4759
02:50:34,309 --> 02:50:32,560
mom is

4760
02:50:36,790 --> 02:50:34,319
waving through him you know there's no

4761
02:50:39,269 --> 02:50:36,800
one here and

4762
02:50:40,950 --> 02:50:39,279
yeah this is lights on you know so those

4763
02:50:42,550 --> 02:50:40,960
kind of things man like when he says

4764
02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:42,560
he's seen his grandpa he's seen his

4765
02:50:46,870 --> 02:50:44,720
grandpa to me he's seen his grandpa i've

4766
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:46,880
seen mine yeah you know i

4767
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:49,200
i remember saying he scared me and then

4768
02:50:53,429 --> 02:50:50,960
that was the last time i'd never seen it

4769
02:50:54,710 --> 02:50:53,439
again i now that i'm older i wish i

4770
02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:54,720
wouldn't have said

4771
02:50:58,230 --> 02:50:56,479
that scared me because my grandpa loved

4772
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:58,240
me you know and he i know he wouldn't

4773
02:51:01,269 --> 02:50:59,520
want to scare me

4774
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:01,279
so i think that's maybe why i didn't see

4775
02:51:05,190 --> 02:51:02,800
it again

4776
02:51:06,870 --> 02:51:05,200
and you chad

4777
02:51:08,309 --> 02:51:06,880
man i just haven't had any

4778
02:51:10,070 --> 02:51:08,319
i keep saying i haven't had any

4779
02:51:11,349 --> 02:51:10,080
experiences but as soon as this podcast

4780
02:51:13,349 --> 02:51:11,359
is over i'm gonna stand up there's gonna

4781
02:51:15,030 --> 02:51:13,359
be a whole living room full of entities

4782
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:15,040
like hey

4783
02:51:24,309 --> 02:51:22,710
anytime i go like i remember my grandpa

4784
02:51:26,550 --> 02:51:24,319
like it was about when i grew up i was

4785
02:51:29,190 --> 02:51:26,560
12 years old and i used to like

4786
02:51:31,030 --> 02:51:29,200
live in this bedroom you know uh no ac

4787
02:51:32,790 --> 02:51:31,040
whatever and like anyways my grandpa

4788
02:51:35,349 --> 02:51:32,800
took that bedroom because my mother took

4789
02:51:37,030 --> 02:51:35,359
him in and um i remember like he would

4790
02:51:38,150 --> 02:51:37,040
always tell me somebody's pulling on my

4791
02:51:39,510 --> 02:51:38,160
feet

4792
02:51:41,349 --> 02:51:39,520
i'm like what do you talk about you're

4793
02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:41,359
crazy you know somebody's pulling on my

4794
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:42,240
feet

4795
02:51:46,710 --> 02:51:44,640
you know i'm like okay you know but

4796
02:51:48,790 --> 02:51:46,720
actually after he passed away

4797
02:51:50,469 --> 02:51:48,800
and i went back to that room

4798
02:51:52,309 --> 02:51:50,479
it's at my mother's house if i go to

4799
02:51:54,070 --> 02:51:52,319
sleep in that room

4800
02:51:55,590 --> 02:51:54,080
every once in a while i feel somebody

4801
02:51:57,510 --> 02:51:55,600
pulling on my feet

4802
02:51:59,670 --> 02:51:57,520
like literally like somebody going you

4803
02:52:01,269 --> 02:51:59,680
know like i don't know what it means

4804
02:52:02,950 --> 02:52:01,279
but somebody's like hey wake up i don't

4805
02:52:04,710 --> 02:52:02,960
know what it means but somebody's always

4806
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:04,720
checking me in that room and it's like

4807
02:52:07,429 --> 02:52:06,000
that's why i don't even spend the night

4808
02:52:08,230 --> 02:52:07,439
at my mom's house anymore because of

4809
02:52:10,469 --> 02:52:08,240
that

4810
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:10,479
i just think it's crazy like it used to

4811
02:52:14,790 --> 02:52:12,479
happen to him and i thought he was crazy

4812
02:52:17,429 --> 02:52:14,800
but once it started happening to me

4813
02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:17,439
i was like holy [\h__\h] like

4814
02:52:20,550 --> 02:52:19,040
it was real

4815
02:52:21,750 --> 02:52:20,560
but we don't know who lived that in the

4816
02:52:23,349 --> 02:52:21,760
house before

4817
02:52:24,870 --> 02:52:23,359
anything happened in the house you know

4818
02:52:26,830 --> 02:52:24,880
it's a 70s house

4819
02:52:28,870 --> 02:52:26,840
i don't know how about you

4820
02:52:31,190 --> 02:52:28,880
willy we'll have to save that for

4821
02:52:32,870 --> 02:52:31,200
another time gentlemen we got 35 seconds

4822
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:32,880
so i'm gonna i'm gonna get you all out

4823
02:52:38,230 --> 02:52:35,680
of here i love you guys so much and i'm

4824
02:52:39,670 --> 02:52:38,240
excited for having these these basically

4825
02:52:41,190 --> 02:52:39,680
extension of almost like family we all

4826
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:41,200
get to hang out with nightly so you guys

4827
02:52:44,469 --> 02:52:43,040
all rock

4828
02:52:46,070 --> 02:52:44,479
all right brother yes sir thank you

4829
02:52:47,990 --> 02:52:46,080
thank you for having us for having me

4830
02:52:50,550 --> 02:52:48,000
we'll catch you at this party hard some

4831
02:52:52,469 --> 02:52:50,560
other time man that's right sor here we

4832
02:52:54,309 --> 02:52:52,479
go baby and uh you guys can check out

4833
02:52:57,110 --> 02:52:54,319
paranormal chop shop every friday at 9

4834
02:52:58,550 --> 02:52:57,120
00 pm eastern time zone

4835
02:53:00,550 --> 02:52:58,560
so

4836
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:00,560
appreciate it for being here guys

4837
02:53:03,830 --> 02:53:02,640
hey jojo looked like freaking dave scott

4838
02:53:06,309 --> 02:53:03,840
didn't he

4839
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:06,319
he did he did

4840
02:53:11,110 --> 02:53:08,800
he does all right guys

4841
02:53:13,750 --> 02:53:11,120
as we always stay

4842
02:53:16,469 --> 02:53:13,760
wrapping them up here as i always say

4843
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:16,479
stay curious and keep it weird chad i

4844
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:17,600
want to give a special shout out to you

4845
02:53:20,309 --> 02:53:19,200
thank you for coming on and hanging out

4846
02:53:21,510 --> 02:53:20,319
and a special shout out to each and

4847
02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:21,520
every person who came on and shared

4848
02:53:25,510 --> 02:53:23,600
tonight we love all of you guys

4849
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:25,520
have a good one let's go rock out at sor

4850
02:53:30,710 --> 02:53:27,359
baby

4851
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:30,720
we'll get it all set up you guys

4852
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,880
this is great stuff i i really mean that

4853
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:34,240
i really appreciate all of you have come

4854
02:53:37,830 --> 02:53:35,920
on and shared tonight so

4855
02:53:39,510 --> 02:53:37,840
enough of my face let's get out of here

4856
02:53:41,269 --> 02:53:39,520
let's go support lynn wallington and sr

4857
02:53:45,530 --> 02:53:41,279
over there with dave scott

4858
02:54:20,230 --> 02:53:45,540
you guys all have a good evening